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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:50 am 
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I would like for everyone to understand something. Somethings have come up and i would like everyone to understand. I certainly and among my peers do not consider myself elite and for that matter i certainly do not consider myself cocky (well maybe just vurin lol) . I'm a player just like everyone else, so is everyone in ckd. Recently we've closed our membership applications. Some people were not accepted. Some people have thought to themselves well fuck you ckd you hate me fuck off. Its not actually about that. We pick people on what WE as the ls need. We do this on purpose, for the events that do we need organization time and patience. We aren't a bunch of robots, of course we socialize in fact ask anyone i talk to much lol. So basically if you haven't gotten into ckd its ok don't worry you may have another chance. Anyway one more thing. Try and take it easy on yarr with the tell's. He's trying to organize the first NA dynamis ls maintain his own ls and on top of that he attempts to filter needless drama by 56.99% percent. On top of it all he maintains a website for the ls and ifrit.



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:41 am 
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And he needs xp. Someone form a xp party and invite him already please.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:30 am 
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Im not an elitist. Im not a snob. Anyone whos sent me a tell to chat or say hello has always received a nice reply, not aways a timly reply, but a nice one.

I try not to concerned myself with the opinions of other people, not ingame atleast. Good or bad I'm going to continue to have as much fun possible in this game. If my whole LS decided I wasnt doing a good job and just wanted to get up and walk out for another LS... Thats fine, its their call. I just dont think any of my friends would do that. Why? Beacause I make sure to talk to the LS before doing anything. We vote on every new member. We work as a team. There are few things that I do with out the LS's opinoin.

Some people shoot me down for putting a min level requirment on the ls. I dont know why people think Im some kind of elitist for having a level restriction. This is after all a NA HNM Linkshell. The first of its kind on Ifrit. A level 20 RDM isnt going to help us Kill Fafnir.
Theres also alot of dedication thats needed to be part of the Dojo. I personally find it hardly get to xp since Im constantly running from HNM camp to HNM camp. Im also not the only one who gives up xp for the better of the LS. We had 18 people spend ever day this week camping an HNM. Alot of people were willing to put aside what they wanted to do for the sake of helping othersl. Stuff like that makes me proud to be part of this great group of people.

I cant stress enough that CKD is not a normal LS, its quite unique in the NA world. I dont know what to say... I run a tight ship. If I invited every one who ever asked me for a pearl we would easily be at the max allowed members. I get alot of people asking to join every day. At one point it was getting really hard to keep track. Thats why I opend the application boards. For an easy way to remember everyone. At this point we almost have enough people to take out Kirin. An HNM that only a few NA linkshells have been able to kill. But my main concern isnt over the monsters or the loot.

My concern is over the people and how they feel in the LS. I make sure theres no tension between anyone in CKD. Theres no such thing as a Linkshell with no problems. CKD is no exception to the rule. We have our few spats but we always get over it. I work hard to make sure everyone in here is happy with the LS and happy with each other. I take the time to talk to anyone in CKD who is having a problem. I work with them to resolve any issue. I consider myself very very lucky to be associated with such a great group of people. I also look forward to adding more great people into CKD. Theres are alot of up comming people who Im exited to see hit the high levels. There are also lots of people who arnt in shell that I have extremely high opinions of. I try to get as many people into ls as i can, however, the more people the more problems. So keeping it small is going to help the LS in the long run.

I also consider my self extremely lucky to have such an amazing group of posters here on the boards. Level is a big part of FFXI and with out these forums I wouldnt have had the great oportunity to meet alot of you guys and gals here.
I post on alot of forums and this is by far the best collection of ifrit posters. I look forward to the Dynamis tour and having the oportunity to see the majority of the high level Ifrit community in action.... or dying :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:39 am 
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/em wipes the tear off her cheek.

That was very touching.

I have never been a really active member of any forums. Most of them I read are unintelligible flames, or debates over issues that aren't worth the exercise it takes to type. But these forums are different. I actually enjoy them. The people are funny, mostly nice (still a little iffy about Vurin), and everyone helps everyone else out, whether it's simple advice or in-game guidance.

I, personally, know that I'll probably never be a member of CKD. It doesn't bother me, and I don't think it's because its members are elitists. I simply wouldn't be an asset. But from what I can tell, you guys are a great group of people, and I'm very happy to be here. :D

So, this is an official voucher (not that it matters, but at least it's coming from a lowbie (maybe that'll make them feel better))-- the members of CKD that I've seen on the boards, Yarr especially, are not elitists. Yeah, at first they're a little intimidating, but that's natural. You just gotta hang around for awhile, and you'll see that they're really just big teddy bears decked out in AF. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:44 am 
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 Post subject: admiration
PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:52 am 
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See, it's that kind of thing that us, well low lvl, and Mid lvls admire about some of you high lvls. Your self lessness, and your dedication to people who aren't yourselves. That's the reason, i think, soo many people are on this site, and want to join your LS, that admiration. I personally am part of a broken Link Shell (Goshinaofhell, or something like that) that has been torn apart by a needy female. Things like this make you grow, but at the same time, wish for better for yourself. And that's exactly what soo many people feel bieng affiliated with you'll can do for them, give them better.

I'm sorry for the long text, but i just like to fully explain myself (when i can). And if it's not to much Yarr, or anyone else aparty of CKD, i would like to know the specifications for being considered for you all. And yes i'm aware ya'll are not looking for members now. But it'll always be good to know for the future.

Thanks for being so admirable CKD.

P.S: Keep up all the selfless acts, it's what makes heroes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:18 am 
Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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For the people who dont get accepted and get mad about, have no idea what CKD is about. Just keep doing what your doing Yarr, cause its worked so far. Having a level restriction and job requirement is by no means being cocky or being an elitest. You need to do those things in order to build a solid HNM/Dynamis LS, which is what CKD is all about. Such as the event that happened last night, the exact same thing happened to our LS, almost causing us to break up, but we went forward.

You guys have already made quite a name for yourselves and will continue to push forward. Keep it up cant wait to see more screens and stories ^^


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:18 am 
I;m in cobr a kuy dogo
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One thing i really like about the boards is that u get know tons of new ppl and even thou ur not in CKD or W/e i know that if some one msg me in game and needed help with something i would rather help some one i know then some noob that is half retarded.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:33 am 
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I don't know how people can claim that CKD/Cheeseburgers are only for the elite. From what I know, the average number of drg per hnmls or dynamis raid is a lot less then 1. There are 3.5 drg currently in CKD.

As far as I know, we have given everyone a fair enough chance to join under a set of pre-defined rules. However, if people see this as a chance to slander other people(s) because they couldnt' get what they wanted, nothing we can do about it. Hopefully, people will wake up and realize this is one of many hmnls that will be out there.

Btw, most of us in CKD are very strict on certain borderline issues such as botting, mpk and such so no use in arguing over stuff that will leave bad impressions with us.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:49 pm 
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took me forever to read this whole thread... i hate you all. I agree with your opinions of CKD. I do not agree that the LS isn't elitist though. It's kinda the definition of elitist if you only accept certain jobs, with a very high level, of only people you know/trust, of people who you know have decent player skill, and people who can be there when you need them. I' dunno how you can say that isn't elitist but it works nonetheless. I recently quit dragoon because i thought it just wasn't worth it anymore. I took up bst because you never HAVE to join exp groups and there aren't many high level NA bsts around. After being dragoon for so long, you get the feeling that you really aren't wanted and are definitely not needed. If there aren't many high level bsts, that gives you a much better chance :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:23 pm 
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e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism
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The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.



I don't think this little clan is elist because it doesn't really think people should be favoured because of a PERCIEVED superiority. Almost anyone can join once they hit a certain level and are the right job.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:53 pm 
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hahahaha Great post Princess, gotta love posts with a litle research behind them and the dictionary becomes a pretty valid source here.

I think alot of the anger that might be being taken out on the people in the Dojo are from young kids. Young kids often have a hard time well... with just about everything as i have found from this game.

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awe my princess just owned someone. :o

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Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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i dont think what ppl think of CKD really matters.. you cant please everyone. theres always someone who will take not getting accepted the wrong way. no matter how many times you say it theyll never realize that the Lv / job / ZM status play a big part in your guy's events... well that is until they actually get to the right game standing and start attempting these things. then theyll see that requirements werent done out of malice but neccesity. ^^;


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:45 pm 
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People shouldn't apply to things if they aren't willing to be rejected.

This LS is an HNM ls, not a chit chat have fun yahoo chat room. although it can be that the purpose behind the ls from what i can tell is HNM hunting. HNM's are tough buggers who need certain players to take them out. I completely understand the restrictions put on players and why they need to be in place, sometimes, the success of a run can be based on the performance of one player. Why waste others time and energy with players who wouldn't be able to contribute to the LS?

I for one am not 70+, do not have sky access and do not have drk leveled so that i can chainspell stun. three things which are really needed on some HNM fights. I didn't get in, and I'm not upset, just something to work on. This LS cannot be called elitist because they have standards for joining, it's a matter of functionality, without those standards they could not function. Also, they open up Dynamis events to the general populace, which they really don't have to do, they could just do it w/ the jp like they have done prior to this. just my 2 gil

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:01 pm 
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azreal that was one of the points we where trying to prove. CKD is trying something that hasn't been done by anyone in ifrit server and attempt to organize a dynamis run. This is open to everyone who can come. All that is required is that you listen to yarr and follow the dynamis rules.

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lol this was very touching, Someday i hope to join you all in HNM's and other fun stuff........still got 900k to farm so it might be a long time


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it's 1 million for the entire dynamis party. so around 20k each time you go


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When u are turned down it dosen't mean it's a no Forever. just Just Basicly a temporary no. U maybe to low or not have Sky Access or have other stuff need to get done 1st. Unless Yarr said to u that ur never going be able to join which i have only heard a hand full of times.

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And for those who dont get into the CKD you always have the loving arms of the VKD to fall back on =)
Oh and Pix, go lvl your whm and meet me in the crawlers nest ^^
I realize that i will also most likely never make it into the CKD, but still, thats what these forums are for, alot of the CKD are really really nice people and very easily my favorite bunch of people on Ifrit, FFXI, and online in general and its really nice knowing such awesometastic people =D
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I should have that one copyrighted. =/

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 Post subject: Just my thoughts...
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Maintenance (sp?) is up so I figured I might add something here. Btw, well put Yarr. :wink:

I have a friend, who will remain nameless, who seems to be utterly distraught that they weren't accepted into CKD. My advice to them was to keep persisting so that in the near-by future Yarr, or whoever, will have them in mind when looking for new applicants. Sometimes getting in requires dumb luck too.

This person went on to say things like "they don't like me", and quite honestly it's SOO not about that! I know a few ppl who feel this way. CKD members are about 99.9% busy doing things and that 0.01% that's left over is hardly ever spent on contemplating who we like and dislike, collectively anyway. :oops:

The point I guess I'm trying to make is that our leader(s) make educated decisions based on the needs of the CKD before asking the LS. Of course consideration is lost if such a new person is known to cause tension within the linkshell but doesn't that go for ANY LS?

Besides, not all of CKD is in sky yet! We still have our own members to take care of irl. Good luck to all!


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 Post subject: lol
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lol. Gives me something to aspir towards. I know i have a long way to go. And i'm willing to except the fact that i might not get into CKD ever, but i'll have something to work towards which will make this game all the more enjoyable and challenging.

(Yarr, don't forget me, lol.)

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