Paladins can tank quite a bit, if you have the right setup. CKD has tanked the BC99 toe to toe. That in it self is much harder than tanking King Behemoth. Most people in game will tell you its impossible to tank King Behemoth with out kiting.

yea except we used monk/nin and war/nin to tank it =p

Eh, jump is a normal melee attack with a long recover time so really if you spam it is not much difference then if you were hitting it normally anyway. The dmg increase in "jump" is minimal without double attack kicking in, and "high jump" has a lower dmg percentage. Spamming super jump....well i guess there would be some sort of exploit to it but wouldn't be wildly useful. Really warcry + berserk + haste would be more dmg overall than spamming jumps.
Jump is more or less a TP building and hate shedding tool than DD. The damage from it is just bonus, but damage isn't why a dragoon jumps.

Whatever it is, I'm guessing it will be some 4rth jump that does...something. Maybe a *lot* of damage, or maybe something to do with hate erasing to go along with the theme of jumps, or maybe some sort of lancet-like effect.
I'm guessing it will be a lot liek astral flow, where in your wyvenr and you share some sort of stat bonus between one another until you use the jump. Maybe, maybe not. I'd like uber dmg to be honest. Haha. Would be really nice if it was something super effective against dragons, as SE...Its really really really lame that dragoons can't fight dragons. L-a-m-e.


It is true though that a well equipped drg + wyvern can out DD most job classes. Does this mean I can play my main job for once? lol. probably not. haha.







PS: I hate you Rune.

I really like the fact that SE is making an effort to make the players happy. Yes, it takes them a while, but with this new development and adjustment we know that they DO actually listen to us. As well with the change to Land King claiming and the like. It's stuff like this that really make me excited to go home and play FFXI every day.

I don't know if it's SE or the players themselves that is tying down pld's sub...I think part of the xp issue with pld is that.. most of the pld are very replelent to the idea of playing a role other than tanking (subbing war)..

I have had a Tank Burn (LOL) Pt with: Nin/War, Nin/War, Nin/War, War/Nin, Pld/Rdm, Brd/Whm in sky. And we were able to make constant chain 7-8 and made a chain 10 at some point

The pld is a hume and he didnt' even have any trouble with mp most of the time with ballad alone... I am able to DS curaga II spam every 10 min at the beginning of the battle cuz he would be able to cover me and once i lose hate, i can start pulling again.

I can only imagine how good a pld/whm will be in KRT.. (GOGO Staff pld! and Undead killer effect! will be trying this soon)

However I do agree that pld itself lacks the JA to be flexible, and will be dependent of their subjob to provide them with tools to carry out dutys that doesn't involve hate-making...

I really like the fact that SE is making an effort to make the players happy. Yes, it takes them a while, but with this new development and adjustment we know that they DO actually listen to us. As well with the change to Land King claiming and the like. It's stuff like this that really make me excited to go home and play FFXI every day.

Funny how u say that about the Land Kings and u pushed to camp more but then quit over having to camp Land Kings.....

Actually I quit b/c I didn't want to do Land Kings with FS nazis. SHOW UP OR DIE!

That and I lost all respect for the rest of the staff in that LS.

It's just really depressing to see how my own friends(someof the MNKs that say that are my friends) would rather make me suffer than progress in this game.

As of right now, we can all joke about DRGs going, "DON'T WORRY GUYS, I'LL SAVE YOU WITH MY WYVERN! HERE IT COMES!!! COME FORTH WYVERN OF DEATH!!!"

For those who say DRGs are/were weak, I can only point out the hottest DRG evah > Charonne (and Kioko is hott too). Those who take the time to learn and make the best of their job will ALWAYS outshine those who just want to deal "uber" dmg.

sorry, PLD isnt broken haha. not our fault most PLD have no idea the enmity that goes behind their actions. maybe if they didnt forget that cure iv can be used on other PT members as well as themself to keep hate and that not getting hit makes so you lose less hate than gettng smacked.

btw i ignored the shit out of this thread and just noticed it was all about plds and not drgs so i figured id post something. its funny reading all these plds and other ppl posting how plds have to use war sj when none have ever actually tried anything else. pld isnt a broken job u just gotta play around and learn how to use it.

k well for starters using all ur ja at once just masses ur enmity instead of spreading it out. u still get the same about of hate it just applies it all at once instead of spreading it. do you use voke when it comes up or do u wait till u lose hate? its the same concept. as for different subs i tanked fafnir fine with nin sub

omg since charonne and kioko have the same model its like she never left, we should call kioko charonne from now on