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Lots of talk as to what happend, I wanted to post this on the original FS thread but it was deleted when I went to post. I think people need to look at what went on then decided who they are going to get mad at. anyway here is my original post below....
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Well, I suppose I should post my opinion. Actually I shouldn’t post my opinion. However, I will post it anyway.
First of all, I stopped reading back on like page 6. Why? Because this so retarded its not even funny. People need to know what happened here, not what people “Feel” the problem is. So let’s break it down and look at it.
Let me explain why I think this is funny. Let’s look at the facts of what happened.
Picture if you will, there are about Sixty people in zone. We are all sitting and waiting for the NM to pop (Valor, FS and CKD). At the second last interval Nidhogg spawned. Who pulled it? Dustdevil. This didn’t look good. I’ve heard from many sources (and yes, people tell me lots of things, I wont name names, but lets face it, I know when people are up to no good, people in FS didn’t like the talk going on and did mention it to me) that specific members. No, all of them. FS as a lot of players and I would go so far as saying I LOVE many members of FS. I was told by a few people that some of the FS members were removing the DAT files so that they could spam provoke and not worry about darter agro. Information on how to do this was even posted on the FS private boards. This information has been known to all members of CKD for a few weeks now. We found out about it actually quite awhile ago but it didn’t start to show signs until all the sudden FS was winning pulls with very little experience camping Fafnir. So Dustdevil was one of the names mentioned in that list of people who were supposed to delete the dat file. It made a few people “uneasy” about how it was pulled. I’m not making an accusation, I’m just pointing out what I’ve been told and comparing it to what I see. To say the least, it does not “look” good for FS. Regardless of if it is true or not, it does look bad from our point of view.
So anyway, Dustdevil got the pull and FS started to fight it.
The fight was going ok. Hoever, FS made a big mistake and agro’ed a darter with a GA spell. What did this mean? Well, FS was probably about to go down (they didn’t have all the people they had on the second attempt). There are ways to avoid a full wipe when darters agro, but this wasn’t done when they got the agro. At this point we still didn’t buff up, we still waited to see.
If that wasn’t bad enough, Valor grabbed Nidhogg when it went Yellow, someone cast Dia on it. Normally Nidhogg would never go yellow (unless you have to sleep him), but since FS had darter agro he went yellow.
Here is the strange part.
Why aren’t the boards filled with hate about this? Why isn’t FS all over Valor for actually breaking a rule? Well it’s simple. The fact is FS was probably about to die. In fact Im sure a few of them were thinking the same thing. The thing is, Valor just covered it up.
While it would be nice to blame Valor for that Spike Flail that wiped all of CKD, FS And Valor, its just not that simple. Valor would have only MPKed FS, but all Linkshells died. The fault lies with FS who’s members ran off whent hey got agro from the darters. Take the Galka BST who died far off to the left of Nidhogg. Due to the high load of players I couldn’t see everything.
Another member ran and this caused Nidhogg to turn. When Nidhogg turned one of the two plds Voked (from instinct most likely) and this caused the Spike flail. This killed all those who would have grabbed Nidhogg after FS wiped from darter agro.
Yes I know, you recovered from darter agro the second time, however, thanks to Valor no one will ever know if you could have recovered. Since you had much less people, its safe to say there’s a good chance you would have died. Maybe you wouldn’t have, but hey the spike flail nullified any chance of us knowing.
So that’s why no one talks about Valor stealing Nidhogg.
So what did CKD do after we died to a mistake made by another linkshell?
We released and came back.
However, since FS already had a slew of people coming (when FS pulled Nidhogg all the people who didn’t bother camping started to run out to the spawn) in they beat us to the next chance at a fight. FS was lucky that this AOE move kills all players meaning those who are waiting also died. So this mistake they made killed anyone else’s chance of fighting after FS died.
Hurray, FS gets back on Nidhogg, personally I didn’t care much I though the whole thing was entertaining. I was paying very close attention since I know first hand just how strung out and misconstrued these things get after the fact.
Anyway, FS starts fighting Nidhogg and once again they manage to pull darter agro. Luckly FS had a lot more people there and were able to pull back from that one. Id also like to point out that you guys got extremely lucky with Huricane Wing. I’ve seen Fafnir use more Wing moves, but he, that’s what fighting HNMs is all about, having just a little bit of luck ;p. So FS manages to come back and sleep Nidhogg until everyone is rested up and healed.
The fight went on. However, once he got to his 10% death mode things started to get out of hand. This is actually where he gets hard. The other 90% is just a marathon.
So at this 10% most the WHM had too much hate (since the wipe and having to use Curga and healing raise sick people) and they went down fast. This also caused Nidhogg to move forward and change where he was standing (not a good thing, but not the end of the world). At about 5% most the FS alliance was down, however, they had lots of out of alliance people standing by to raise and jump into the fight. Hell, they just had lots of people, so yeah of course there would always be an FS member alive somewhere.
Still, at this point it was getting clear that FS might not be able to finish the fight again. However, things got really ugly again. Things looked like they were about to get REALLY bad. I also had 2-3 FS members tell me to make sure that if Nidhogg was going to die that it died to FS or CKD and not KFC.
I figured it was going to be close but, FS was going to do it. I mean, it’s at 1%. At this point we had all the CKD members up on the wall to not get in the way and avoid aoe.
But where was KFC?
Where were the “savoiors” to FS? Oh that’s right, they were up beside Nidhogg with it targeted. Hey, what does it matter, Nidhogg is at 1% there’s no way they could lose right?
Wrong. The one thing you need to remember when fighting HNMs. You can wipe at 99% and you can wipe at 1%. What’s the difference? The only difference is that you didn’t waste so much time when you wipe at 99%. However, you still wipe. You’re still dead and the HNM is still alive.
So what did happen? Why didn’t FS kill Nidhogg and why is FS so mad at CKD?
At 1% Nidhogg used his Spike Flail and wiped out the full CKD alliance and from what I could tell 95% of all the players in the pit were dead.
Yet no one seemed to have notice that just a few seconds before Nidhogg used spike flail a specific Red Mage used Chain spell.
Wait… When did he use it? Was it before FS wiped out?
Yup
He used his 2h when Nidhogg started to move, and most of FS was already dead. He used it because he didn’t want CKD to get the pull. Because with his Chainspell he could easily kill the last 1%, regardless of what state FS was in. I’m sure he was always going to give the E abj body to FS.
Why?
Just like Eromenos, he doesn’t like CKD and loves to take the chance to make us look bad. Actually, just like a lot of people on this server who are annoyed that they talked to me and were politely turned down.
Wait, I’m confused, why is CKD the bad guy here? Was it because we stole the HNM during the first attempt? Was it because we stole the kill at the end?
I seem to be confused what happened at the Nidhogg fight that made CKD into such assholes?
Maybe
Get this
Maybe you guys are just looking for a reason to hate us?
The world is never as nice when all you all green.
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RIP Shiloh
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