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Denchi
 Post subject: STANDARD Subjobs.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:09 am 
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help me out with this. I just want to make a list of standard subjobs. Help me revise it if needed.

WARRIOR
Monk
Ninja
Thief
Samurai

MONK
Warrior
Samurai

WHITE MAGE
Black Mage
Summoner

BLACK MAGE
White Mage
Summoner
Red Mage

RED MAGE
White Mage
Black Mage
Dark Knight (HNM fights)
Ninja (Solo, Quests, Avatars etc.)

Thief
Warrior
Ninja

Paladin
Warrior
Ninja (farming/small NM)

DARK KNIGHT
Warrior
Thief
Samurai

BEASTMASTER
White mage
Warrior (for parties)
Ninja

RANGER
Ninja
Warrior
Samurai (for HNM/Quest cases)

BARD
White Mage

SUMMONER
White Mage

SAMURAI
Warrior
Thief
Ranger (Solo, quest)

NINJA
Warrior
Thief

DRAGOON
Warrior
Samurai
White mage (soloing)
Red Mage (Certian Situations, not normal sub)
Thief (for lower levels is fine)


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Peejo
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It is possible for DRG to sj rdm as well for certain fights.

As for pld, I really don't see the possibility of using nin other than duo/solo farming/NM camping (phantom worm etc). HNM fights if you need pld to be there to tank/kite, provoke is a must.

Some jobs also pretty much limit to certain sj after certain lvl.
i.e. drk normally would have thf after lvl 60 and war normally would have nin and thf normally would have nin as well. Nin is kinda of like pld only gets to have war, it's very rarely to see them with thf sj at high lvls.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:20 am 
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but you CAN use Pld/Nin. I mean you have nin leveled for a reason right? You think I should take Pld/Nin off the list? and add Drg/Rdm? I've never seen a Drg/Rdm
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PLD/NIN is more for farming than for anything. I had the thought of using it to tank certain HNM, but it really won't work unless it's sorry NM like steelfleece, OSE etc. It is super when using the combo to fight those but the real HNM, it's X unfortunately. You can keep it though but if you are going to use the info on some msg board, probably want to make sure note it only for farming/small NM so newbies won't be mislead.

As for DRG/RDM, I know one /point Itto. Any healer jobs are suitable for DRG in certain situations (fafnir fight etc) imo. Solo farming with a mage job helps with downtime.
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Ok, made the changes. anything else you think would need fixing?

Smn/Blm sucks right?
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Yeah smn/blm and blm/smn sucks. But some people do, personally I didn't see any until recently when I start leveling my mage jobs and party member told me about their choices. It's sort of funny, cuz we were looking for replacement for me and there was a smn/blm. PT member said how about that smn/blm? I said no, it's gimp to have blm as smn sj. Pt member said, "I play smn/blm as main". I was like oh, well, it still doesn't make sense since smn is meant to be back up healers in current setting :P
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a lot of jobs use /nin in special cases in the later lvls.
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SMN could sub RDM and so could BRD however in general both should use WHM for healing status effects.

also RDM can sub NIN for soloing too ;)

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Add ninja to the RDM list of standard subs. Horrible XP party subjob, awesome for questing/soloing or certain tanking situations (avatars).

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DRG can sub BLM for solo'ing as well. More MP and less MP cost to cast.

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also add drk to the sjobs of RDM for HNM stituations

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Could also add ranger to the list of samurai subs. IMO I think sam/rng is more common than rng/sam.
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Heh, hey Tavalin.
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Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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omg you forgot about:

war/whm (ghetto pld)

mnk/rdm (en- spells omgomgomg sexual)

blm/nin (cuz dual wield stat weapons is way better than a useful SJ)

sam/bst (cuz um... i dont have a reason for this one)


and make sure you SJ's are way under lv'd too
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smn/bst

OMG OMG 2 pets at teh same time omg omg

that combo is supa l33t

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lol squintz stfu, =P

u cant have 2 pts

but anything with smn in the job combo is nice ;-)

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Ok I made all the updates I saw. What does everyone think of the list? I would really like this to be as accurate as I can get it.
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