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Not sure if anyone is interested by space like I am, but I thought this discovery was pretty interesting. Planet geology and formation is one of the sciences domain we know the less, and every time we discover something like that, we have to rethink slightly our model.



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NASA's Cassini Discovers Potential Liquid Water on Enceladus
March 9, 2006
(Source: NASA/JPL)


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NASA's Cassini spacecraft may have found evidence of liquid water reservoirs that erupt in Yellowstone-like geysers on Saturn's moon Enceladus. The rare occurrence of liquid water so near the surface raises many new questions about the mysterious moon.

"We realize that this is a radical conclusion -- that we may have evidence for liquid water within a body so small and so cold," said Dr. Carolyn Porco, Cassini imaging team leader at Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colo. "However, if we are right, we have significantly broadened the diversity of solar system environments where we might possibly have conditions suitable for living organisms."

High-resolution Cassini images show icy jets and towering plumes ejecting large quantities of particles at high speed. Scientists examined several models to explain the process. They ruled out the idea that the particles are produced by or blown off the moon's surface by vapor created when warm water ice converts to a gas. Instead, scientists have found evidence for a much more exciting possibility -- the jets might be erupting from near-surface pockets of liquid water above 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit), like cold versions of the Old Faithful geyser in Yellowstone.

Mission scientists report these and other Enceladus findings in this week's issue of Science.

"We previously knew of at most three places where active volcanism exists: Jupiter's moon Io, Earth, and possibly Neptune's moon Triton. Cassini changed all that, making Enceladus the latest member of this very exclusive club, and one of the most exciting places in the solar system," said Dr. John Spencer, Cassini scientist, Southwest Research Institute, Boulder, Colo.

"Other moons in the solar system have liquid-water oceans covered by kilometers of icy crust," said Dr. Andrew Ingersoll, imaging team member and atmospheric scientist at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "What's different here is that pockets of liquid water may be no more than tens of meters below the surface."

Other unexplained oddities now make sense. "As Cassini approached Saturn, we discovered that the Saturnian system is filled with oxygen atoms. At the time we had no idea where the oxygen was coming from," said Dr. Candy Hansen, Cassini scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena. "Now we know that Enceladus is spewing out water molecules, which break down into oxygen and hydrogen."


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Scientists are also seeing variability at Enceladus. "Even when Cassini is not flying close to Enceladus, we can detect that the plume's activity has been changing through its varying effects on the soup of electrically-charged particles that flow past the moon," said Dr. Geraint H. Jones, Cassini scientist, magnetospheric imaging instrument, Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research, Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany.

Scientists still have many questions. Why is Enceladus currently so active? Are other sites on Enceladus active? Might this activity have been continuous enough over the moon's history for life to have had a chance to take hold in the moon's interior?

"Our search for liquid water has taken a new turn. The type of evidence for liquid water on Enceladus is very different from what we've seen at Jupiter's moon Europa. On Europa the evidence from surface geological features points to an internal ocean. On Enceladus the evidence is direct observation of water vapor venting from sources close to the surface," said Dr. Peter Thomas, Cassini imaging scientist, Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y.

In the spring of 2008, scientists will get another chance to look at Enceladus when Cassini flies within 350 kilometers (approximately 220 miles), but much work remains after Cassini¿s four-year prime mission is over.



"There's no question that, along with the moon Titan, Enceladus should be a very high priority for us. Saturn has given us two exciting worlds to explore," said Dr. Jonathan Lunine, Cassini interdisciplinary scientist, University of Arizona, Tucson, Ariz.

The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. JPL, a division of the Caltech, manages the mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate. The Cassini orbiter was designed, developed and assembled at JPL.

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thats a really interesting read.

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I follow alot of this kind of thing on the regular. Like tonight at 9pm while i'm getting nice and stoned off my ass, and ready for dynamis i'll be watching the "Revealing Mars" show on tv showing the footage of the new Reconnaissance Obriter that just reached Mars and sheds more light on thier polar ice cap and the history of water on Mars.

The fact that the Geyser is existant on the moon shows three things that are obvious: 1. liquid water 2. an STRONG internal heat source. 3. constant movement. These 3 things are what are needed to cause evolution by most scientific accounts. That's why this is so fascinating to the scientic community.

The moon Titan was always a big target of interest because of the obvious signs in the ice crust that it's constantly breaking and refreezing. Showing that the friction of the planetary ice crust could be enough to cause this evolution. Even here on earth we've discovered that the Sun does not have to be part of an ecosystem. Look at the bottom of the ocean where you have whole colonies of life that center around the hot plumes of gas that are scattered around the floor. Where with some of them having over 100 species of life.

So this will be pretty interesting to see where the studdies to come will lead.

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I just find media on TV lame, at least the one I saw: "POSSIBILITY OF LIFE ON SATURN'S MOON". They should mention it being around 0 while they are at it.

It's still really interesting however to understand how planet/moon are formed, and if we can expect to see similar thing in different solar system.



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The fact that the Geyser is existant on the moon shows three things that are obvious: 1. liquid water 2. an STRONG internal heat source. 3. constant movement. These 3 things are what are needed to cause evolution by most scientific accounts. That's why this is so fascinating to the scientic community.


Yeah. That's what interested me the most in all that. We know what happened on Earth might be more common than we thought, and not only a fluke. It's also impressing for a planet of that size to still have active an core.

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I like that kinda stuff, but when I have time to look into it, I'm on a sucky computer.


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