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anyway. I'll get over it a few months.
sorry for all the blaghness. I get crushed everytime life is stupid.


so uh. yeah. never lose hope cough and blagh. forget it.

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I only date "nice" guys. I only date "nerds". I can't deal with assholes.
I'm saying that there is no such thing as a "nice" guy, just like your saying that there is no such thing as a sensible woman who can make good choices about companionship. However, I personally know that one of those statements is wrong. However, I am also a de-citizen of the moon and cannot speak for all earth women.
The 'stereotypical nice guy' has broken my heart every single time.
Life is horrible and rainbows don't exist ;_;


Some nerds/'nice' guys you have to be careful of, lol. You see I don't know what kind of person you've dated.

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anyway. I'll get over it a few months.
sorry for all the blaghness. I get crushed everytime life is stupid.


so uh. yeah. never lose hope cough and blagh. forget it.


I bet you'll find somebody ^^

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I play FFXI and I still go out and party every once in a while. Why don't I go out every night? Because party's are fucking lame haha. I mean lately I haven't played FFXI much, but when I go out I hang out with people that I'm actually gonna have relationships with, friends, girls, whatever. Parties are just the same fucking small-talk everytime, everyone gets stupid drunk and someone does something retarded and everyone laughs blah-blah-blah, it's boring.


So true lol, "you going out tonight man?" "errr maybe I'll think about it" *is really thinking I'm still recovering from last time & waiting for bank balance to zero again*

It's fun to get drunk and do stupid shit, but if you do it all the time it just becomes the norm and it's not fun anymore...the only thing that makes it fun for me is that I don't do it all the time, maybe that's a sign I'm already too grown up or something.[/quote]

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some nerds are freaks, they don't know how to treat a lady!!

besides not all men suck, can go for the metros or the womanly bi's lol jk

Mintsy ; ; /comfort you will find someone :)

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sorry if this sounds like a stereotype, but its just from my experience:

girls are awful about getting too frustrated & taking out their frustration on others

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some nerds are freaks, they don't know how to treat a lady!!

besides not all men suck, can go for the metros or the womanly bi's lol jk

Mintsy ; ; /comfort you will find someone :)


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I'll post, though I doubt anyone will pay attention.

Far be it from me to let my opinions be known on the subject on relationships, because in that regard, we all truly unique, and need to find our own way to being happy with another. Good luck.

On the subject of "growing up", however, I'm a bit more adamant. I'm twenty now, in college. It's certainly not uncommon for someone in my position to still read comic books, play Nintendo, and watch Teen Titans. But what about in five, or ten years? No longer. Will I be seen as juvenile? Immature? The real question is, will I LET society rip away the things that I truly enjoy? If you truly "outgrow" such things, then fine. But most people simply give them up because they're expected to do so, and that is something I will not allow. I will always look up at the sky and feel a sense of childish wonder; playing Mario will always put a stupid grin on my face. If others can't handle it, fuck them. I am who I am, and I'm not changing because a numerical value associated with my tenure on Earth says so.


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Ok what a minute. I need to know something. This is totally off-topic, but I really, really don't understand this.

What the hell is it with people and Teen titans? Correct me if I'm wrong but its a tweeny american-drawn anime with the prebuescent, angsty forms of older super heros. So, with that said, why the hell is it so popular? I can let that slide on the internet, but the creepier shut-ins I know irl also seem to gravitate towards that show and I personally don't know what to make of it. Sorry if this is totally uncalled for, but I'm just really, really curious, haha

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It's actually a good show. I can't STAND most American voice acting, but Teen Titans had some major talent (Tara Strong FTW), and the Aftershock/Slade story arcs are some of the best American animation I've come across. "X" is one of the most stylish episodes of anything, ever. That said, it wasn't an extremely serious interest, and the show has since been cancelled after rather lackluster fourth and fifth seasons.


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it's because it's emo cad, just like all t he teenagers in the highschools these days.


and off or on topic, about 'nice guys' and 'assholes' and etc. I honestly don't know what I am, I don't know if anyone knows what I am, but I agree with daedalan about how women crush a 'nice guy' into an 'asshole'. I try my bloody hardest to be a nice person to everyone I meet, unless they show me no reason to do that, and I have every reason to be an asshole to everyone. I get screwed over by people so much, I even had my heart ripped out and crushed by someone, it's amazing that I try to ignore that and be the best that I can be to everyone, especially that special someone.

very unsure if that made sense or not, but it's a truly vicious cycle that will continue to happen as long as people are not strong enough to avoid it

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Don't change for anything. If what you're doing makes you happy, that's all that matters. Doesn't matter what X or Y thinks about you. And if girls you meet aren't happy with your hobbies or w/e, screw them. Wait until you find someone who is.

This is the only life you're going to have. Or at least the only lifetime you'll remember (been thinking more about reincarnation and crap lately). And as long as the days seem to be sometimes, a whole buttload of them pass you by without you even realizing it. Spend your days doing what makes you happy, and maybe when you die you'll have slightly fewer regrets than most people.

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Don't change for anything. If what you're doing makes you happy, that's all that matters. Doesn't matter what X or Y thinks about you. And if girls you meet aren't happy with your hobbies or w/e, screw them. Wait until you find someone who is.



Mil gives some good quality advice here (not bad for a tard like mill omg). When princess and I split i dated a few people. Some liked, some I hated. One in particular I did like. Problem was I didnt feel like I could be myself. I couldnt talk about things I really liked, I felt like I had to hide my nerd area's more than I wanted too. I was pretty frustrated with the feeling that I couldnt "find the right girl".

Then from no where sunshine came along and I found someone I can act like a tard around again.

I totally feel that the idea of "looking" for someone is totally wrong. I spent like 7 months datting different people and constantly "trying" to find the right girl. Sunshine came along when I had just about "gave up" and wasnt even sure I wanted a relationship.

So far all the girls who I dated for long enough to feel they were my "girlfriend" came along during times I had "gave up" on dating haha.

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People are drawn to strong people. Strength can be physical or emotional. When you accept yourself for who you are, and don't hide yourself from the public eye, you are emotional strong. You will attract people that way, because somewhere deep down inside they will notice that inner strength you have in yourself now. Thats the reason in my eyes you always find someone off the hook when you are not looking for anybody. When you aren't looking and your comfortable with yourself, you seem more atttractive to people.

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T__T Mintsy, not all men are scum, keep at it, you'll find your moon-man.

Anyway, like a lot of other people said Jim, it's about what your definition of growing up means.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. My worst pet-peeve is stereotypes. To say that men are this or that way, or women are this or that way, is (in my opinion) ridiculous. A random personality can be affected by many things throughout their life. So yeah...now to the point:

I believe that maturity, and 'growth' is when you find the balance within your true self to do what you want to do, and what you should do. When you can learn to be serious, and playful in the appropriate situations.

I'll give you my example: from when I was 14 to when I was 20-ish, I was really (I mean really) into church. I wanted to marry a Catholic, stay a virgin till I got married. And never use birth-control, and have 5841693 children. Above all, I wanted to make everyone happy with me, because I was ridiculously insecure due to childhood events. And I honestly thought that making everyone but me happy was going to make me happy in some way.

But people change, and my perception of the world also changed. I was exhausted of trying to be what people expected me to be. It wasn't that I didn't want to be a 'good' person, it was that whatever I was to become, I wanted to do it out of my own conviction.

And I was finally free. Like someone else said (can't remember who, and too lazy to check), I have more friends, and I'm a lot happier, now that I don't work so hard to please everyone. Personally, I feel more 'grown-up' now, feeling free to be a tard, than before, when I acted 'mature' around my acquaintances. And of course, I know, I'm not done growing up yet. :P

You shouldn't have to change for anyone but yourself. It's hella easy for people to be happy with you if you're happy with yourself.

Now to the other point, I think it was Daedelan that said it, you don't have to have everything in common to have a lovely relationship. Just an awesome open girl who loves you for who you are, and who you will love for who she is. If this wasn't true, the term 'odd couple' wouldn't exist.

There is someone for everyone, all you have to do is find them. At least that's what I tell myself. My mom is already complaining that I don't have a boyfriend. =/ I'm only 22.


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I've had too many g/f, and I'm only 24... sometimes latching on to companionship just to have it, is not the way to go either. Single doesn't mean your lonely, read that somewhere.

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hey everyone, thanks for the feedback, and sorry I wasn't able to get back sooner (I usually troll at work as that's when I have the most time to) First to Mintsy, I'm sorry you're having a rough time with dudes, BUT you did have a good run and as cliche' and retarded (and prolly the last thing you want to hear right now) as this is gonna sound... It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. I've been bored and checked your blog and stuff, I know you were with a guy for awhile and that he made you extremely happy for a long time. Being alone sucks, and reminiscing about the good times sucks, and seeing happy couples sucks, but eventually you will find someone cool again (it's not hard for chicks, especially cool ones.) I feel hopeless a lot, it's been 5 years since I've been with someone who I was even remotely attracted to or found interesting. But no matter how hard lonliness, rejection, frustration, sadness, depression try and break me down, I know that one day I'll meet someone who will make me feel something good again. So, at least there's hope in that.

In regards to the rest of this thread and just the whole pressure I feel of growing up. I've been thinking the past few days about it. And really as hard as you try to change yourself, mostly you still remain yourself strangely, and I'm going to do what is fun and what feels best for me. Maybe growing up is something that just happens and you can't really will it or change yourself to force it or prevent it from happening. I just hope I don't one day wake up 45 still living with my mom, still doing what I'm doing, and still waiting for when it feels right to be more grown up. I guess mainly a lot of what this is centered around is that in the past 5 years, I've met women who were utterly boring, but just wanted to setlle down, and I want to settle down, I'm ready, but not if it means becoming someone I don't want to be, and I feel like giving these women what they want means adhering to this idea of what a grown ass man is supposed to do and act like.

see Milly, I want to live life fully, but let me paint 2 scenarios for you:

1. I continue to cater to my own wants and desires, I never commit to a woman waiting around for the perfect one. I spend my days playing video games, smoking, drinking, and catering to my own ideas of what fun is, finally dying of self inflicted gunshot wound to the head at 38 citing that I felt I would never find the "real" happiness and fulfillment of creating the family I was seeking to replace since I was 16 and mine fell apart, and how ashamed I felt not being more successful in finding something that's so common for most folks.

2. I settle down with the next person who falls in love with me even though I find her utterly repulsive and boring. Get married, have 2.5kids, the house, the family dog and pretend to be mr. rogers, regretting the things I gave up, but feeling justified in the fact that I moved on to that next stage of my life, and didin't watch it pass me by, feeling unable to relate to all my friends and everyone else in society who followed the status quo progression

right now... I'm not sure which one seems more appealing and that's my dilema

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Mil speaking about that reincarnation thing. Have you ever gotten a feeling inside, that you've met someone you know before. But you can't quite put your finger on it. Its a very weird feeling.

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that's interesting Mikey... I'd consider myself pretty spiritual but not very religious, I have my own philosophies about past lives and reincarnation and faith. I do believe that certain people are meant to be in your life, and are meant to serve a purpose if not many purposes. I used to not believe in it so much as a kid and people seemed so accessible. But now, I see that certain people keep coming back and impacting me in different ways and represent certain ideals, while most folks that I thought would just always "be there" are gone, but I don't regret letting them go.. maybe we're all just pawns in some "natural order" and have no control over our destiny and who we wind up with and how we wind up.

but to answer your questions, yes I have met people that I felt like I knew before, and what's really strange about those folks is that you usually find a lot of strange coincidences or parallells in your lives on some celestine prophecy type shit. I used to be more in touch with myself and it used to happen to me a lot, but now that trying to numb myself seems to be one of the most important things in my life I feel like I almost never meet anyone interesting let alone, someone that will have some deep spiritual impact on my life.

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see Milly, I want to live life fully, but let me paint 2 scenarios for you:

1. I continue to cater to my own wants and desires, I never commit to a woman waiting around for the perfect one. I spend my days playing video games, smoking, drinking, and catering to my own ideas of what fun is, finally dying of self inflicted gunshot wound to the head at 38 citing that I felt I would never find the "real" happiness and fulfillment of creating the family I was seeking to replace since I was 16 and mine fell apart, and how ashamed I felt not being more successful in finding something that's so common for most folks.

2. I settle down with the next person who falls in love with me even though I find her utterly repulsive and boring. Get married, have 2.5kids, the house, the family dog and pretend to be mr. rogers, regretting the things I gave up, but feeling justified in the fact that I moved on to that next stage of my life, and didin't watch it pass me by, feeling unable to relate to all my friends and everyone else in society who followed the status quo progression

right now... I'm not sure which one seems more appealing and that's my dilema


So your problem isn't whether or not you feel you should 'grow up' because it's the right thing to do, but because you might find a girl that way? Basically what you're saying (in my view) is that: ok, I haven't found a girl being who I am and doing what I want to do, but maybe if I change my life I will. I'm sure there are girls in the world, being the ginormous place that it is, who would like you just the way you are. You just haven't met them or are being too picky. You're never going to find your 'dream girl' if you have unreasonable expectations. ie: Most girls don't shave their legs everyday; most aren't super-models; we get crabby when we have periods; sometimes we're erratic; sometimes we just don't like you for no reason, but that doesn't mean we don't love you.

There is someone out there who will love your craziness as long as you would love theirs.



And Mikey, yes. The other day (I swear to God this happened) I was sitting somewhere with Matti and his mom. They were talking about something stupid, but I was looking around going, "Omg, this same thing has happened before, but it hasn't really." I knew everything they were going to say, like exactly how they said it. Scared the crap out of me, but I didn't say anything to anyone. Maybe I'm just going crazy.

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I've had too many g/f, and I'm only 24... sometimes latching on to companionship just to have it, is not the way to go either. Single doesn't mean your lonely, read that somewhere.


I've had one serious relationship.

I don't mind being by myself, I know I'll find my crazy kindred spirit some day. People get to you sometimes though. =/ lol

The thing is, my mom doesn't even talk to me about this lol, she tells other people, and for one reason or another the other people end up telling me that she complains about me not having a boyfriend.

A couple of months ago she offered to set me up with a guy she knew from her job...it freaked me out. lol


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And Mikey, yes. The other day (I swear to God this happened) I was sitting somewhere with Matti and his mom. They were talking about something stupid, but I was looking around going, "Omg, this same thing has happened before, but it hasn't really." I knew everything they were going to say, like exactly how they said it. Scared the crap out of me, but I didn't say anything to anyone. Maybe I'm just going crazy.



Something similiar happened to me. I felt whoa.. I think i've done this before. And i had this weird feeling like i knew what they were gonna say before they say it, but i couldn't gather all the words right off the top of my head. Strange feeling indeed.

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I've had too many g/f, and I'm only 24... sometimes latching on to companionship just to have it, is not the way to go either. Single doesn't mean your lonely, read that somewhere.


I've had one serious relationship.

I don't mind being by myself, I know I'll find my crazy kindred spirit some day. People get to you sometimes though. =/ lol

The thing is, my mom doesn't even talk to me about this lol, she tells other people, and for one reason or another the other people end up telling me that she complains about me not having a boyfriend.

A couple of months ago she offered to set me up with a guy she knew from her job...it freaked me out. lol


I'm the oldest name bearing male of my family, at that a spanish family. there is also only two other guys in the family, both cousins, who carry the name, and they are both already screwups.. That said every time I'm single, every member of my family has a "cute" girl that they want to introduce me to because I shouldn't be single... I know exactly what your talking about there. The last one I just broke up with, my aunt called me on a saturday afternoon after I woke up from my druken stupor the night before, and says hey, hold on a sec, next thing I know there is a girl on the phone who knows everything about me... WTF is that, now thats what you call family interference. I don't fight it as hard as I should though, does that make me a bad person? :shock:

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