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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:43 pm 
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I had dinner with my buddy last weekend when I was back in Phoenix. He had his immediate family (Sister, mom, dad) and then his Aunt and Uncle from the south.

I didn't hear his uncle say this, but I guess throughout the night he had been drinking whiskey (When I got to their house he was still drinking, but he didn't seem drunk or anything), and they were all talking about politics and he referred to Clinton as "Crazy Lady" and Obama as "Chocolate Boy."

After having dinner with his aunt and uncle, they were obviously very overt and sometimes abrasive, but overall I thought they were good people. Even if they had biased opinions of certain races, they would never act that way to any ACTUALLY person maybe of that race, and they were plenty ready to accept their own criticism.

Anyways, he called Obama "Chocolate Boy", and any way you cut it that's pretty racist and unacceptable. I was pretty shocked to hear someone had actually said that, especially someone in the family of a friend of mine.


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my grandmother "warned" me the other day about obama being a muslim and not pledging allegance to the flag or something like that. . .

And I was just shocked that people actually believe that stupid stuff. And shes a very educated woman too.

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my grandmother "warned" me the other day about obama being a muslim and not pledging allegance to the flag or something like that. . .

And I was just shocked that people actually believe that stupid stuff. And shes a very educated woman too.


Here's in interesting read that talks about the common misconceptions people have about Obama.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

The "sworn in by the Quran" thing is the most rediculous. Even if it happened I wouldn't give a shit, but it's untrue and has a negative impact on his campaign because ignorant Americans would rather believe what they hear than do any research. He's been a Christian for over 20 years.

It also includes a clip from the vegas debate where he talks about them being false at the bottom.

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I hate obama.

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Me too, mostly because he's black and muslim.

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I like Obama. Meh for Hillary. Can't stand the republicans.

The only thing worse than spear head republicans are their ignorant daughters/sons who are only Republican because that's what mommy and daddy said to do.

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I just hate how all these famous singers and shit are backing him and how all these cluless "kids" think hes soo awesome because of it.

Its terrible.

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At the present moment, and as long as he continues to be as good as he has been thus far, I would vote for Ron Paul if I had to vote tomorrow.


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At the present moment, and as long as he continues to be as good as he has been thus far, I would vote for Ron Paul if I had to vote tomorrow.


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I still dislike them all, but I'd probably vote for Huckabee, only because I watched a thing once and he seemed cool


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americans are stupid, close-minded folk who for the majority cant make any good informed (or uniformed) conclusions about presidentials elections. The candidates with the most money over the last 4-6 elections cycles have either won there parties nomination or came damn close regardles of ideas or principles. Presidential elections have become more of an ad campaign than a drive to who is best qualified at the present time to lead our nation. Its proven, more $$ = more votes. Whats fucked up is how we have almost accepted the fact that our president has to have been in the senate, congress, or a gov'na to get the best considerations to be nominee. I can tell you this there are thousands of more qualified, able, and willing to run our country than those in the political system now, but long are the days when an average Joe can be heard and lead our people. IF YOU WANT TO FIX AMERICA, VOTE FOR TERM LIMITS ANY CHANCE YOU GET. no person should hold any political office longer than a president can, theres a reason for his, and should be for eveyone else.

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Any new kind of term limits than the ones currently active are kind of a double edged sword. They have the potential to lead a few individuals to attempt to cash in as much and as quickly as they can because they know they'll never have as much power again in political office. This could cause more harm than the corruption government already has. Also certain positions (such as chief economic advisors) I believe would be hard position to keep rotating around.

I do agree that many political positions can be bought and sold though.


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Any new kind of term limits than the ones currently active are kind of a double edged sword. They have the potential to lead a few individuals to attempt to cash in as much and as quickly as they can because they know they'll never have as much power again in political office. This could cause more harm than the corruption government already has. Also certain positions (such as chief economic advisors) I believe would be hard position to keep rotating around.

I do agree that many political positions can be bought and sold though.


Well it's a good thing your guy voted against McCain-Feingold then :roll:

Jesus Christ

BCRA literally represents the exact spirit of tightening the extent in which congressional votes can be bought "and sold". Paul views it as a liberty issue


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I'm just going to make a normative statement here: Ron Paul is a motherfucking quack and I've been uprooting dozens and dozens and dozens of campaign signs some idiots have been putting up around my town. I have a shitton of Ron Paul signs and I'm considering building a castle out of them and then burning it and posting it on YouTube

e: and if you don't understand why he's an absolute idiot I suggest you either think about his policies on your own, read some legitimate media, watch the recent Meet the Press interview or you can argue with me about it.


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Ron Paul is a quack. Even if he does have some legitimate ideas, he's always angry and it sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder. I certainly wouldn't trust him with anything.


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This may the only time in my life i agree with Ponuh

and back to term limits, people should not be in any elected office over 8 years, look at our senate and congress. 50% has been there over 20 years and we wonder why shit doesnt get done.

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I like both hillary and obama, but as I previously stated I worry about how obama reacts under fire.

But god if huckabee got elected. . .

I honestly, no joke, would move to Dubai immediately

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I honestly, no joke, would move to Dubai immediately


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I CANNOT STAND RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISTS IN MY GOVERNMENT.

I AM MOVING TO DUBAI!!!!

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Ponuh wrote:
I've been uprooting dozens and dozens and dozens of campaign signs some idiots have been putting up around my town.


I've got some I can loan you, I've actually been doing that too, haha. I have this giant 6x10 foot one I can give you.

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I've been uprooting dozens and dozens and dozens of campaign signs some idiots have been putting up around my town.


I've got some I can loan you, I've actually been doing that too, haha. I have this giant 6x10 foot one I can give you.


What state are you in? I'm in washington and we don't even vote/caucus until almost two weeks after super tuesday, aka, we're total irrelevant and yet this apparently "grassroots" effort is saturating the city (a lot are homemade too). No other candidate has anything up at all and it's fucking obnoxious. I drive two feet and I'm reminded of a man who I absolutely abhor.


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Perhaps you should rally your sarcastic sig. and avatar location around an actual candidate you support then.


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Perhaps you should rally your sarcastic sig. and avatar location around an actual candidate you support then.


Fine.


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Perhaps you should rally your sarcastic sig. and avatar location around an actual candidate you support then.


Fine.


Someone that's actually in the race smartass...Dukakis lol


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Perhaps you should rally your sarcastic sig. and avatar location around an actual candidate you support then.


Fine.


Someone that's actually in the race smartass...Dukakis lol


Oh, he's in it. He's in it all right.


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