Eternus wrote:
She said they are goth... goth and black metal are actually different... the bands she is mentioning that kill eachother and perform satanic rituals are most likely black metal bands like Mayhem, Burzum, Emperor, etc. They are not goth (goth is much slower in tempo and not really metal either). I do not know who the band HIM is anyway, but just because someone plays dark music and wears all black and corpsepaint doesn't mean they are goth or black metal.
Black metal is fast music (usually blast beats and double bass at above 200bpm) and has guitars that are trem picked usually and with treble and mids at unusually high settings for metal guitar along with higher pitched screaming vocals and some death metal like growling. Goth is usually slower and more sad, depressing music, with emotional whiny singers. Goth guitar is mainly chord based and uses downstrokes and the music is usually below 130bpm (goth has less distortion and usually doesn't have high mids or any treble boosting either).
Both types of music usually have band members that look alike as both types have ppl that dress in all black wearing white face paint are usually skinny white guys. Most black metal bands now have keyboardists (early bands did not), while goth bands have usually always incorporated keyboards.
sorry ;p I'll rephrase then, most metal doesn't appeal to me and I'm not the biggest fan of whiny singing, (It's what made Deftones go from ok at best on their first album to complete shit.) lol.
This was also slightly misleading-
Arlania wrote:
Apparently over there black bands (goth bands) actually kill each other and practice dark rituals.
So with goth metal, you say it's 130 or less bpm. Does it actually feel like 130 bpm, or does it almost have a double time feel to it? (Bands like disturbed use slower tempos to sound heavier, playing 16th notes but accenting the slower quarter note in the rhythm section.)
Also, what type of chordal structure do bands like this use? I'm sure it's not jazz. lol However with the presence of a keyboardist, I'm sure there are some interesting progressions using secondary dominants and other forms of modulation. I doubt it's just all I-IV-V or I-ii-V stuff, (the boring stuff you hear in punk all the time ;p)
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I won't deny that there aren't a lot of talented musicians in the metal scene, and it's been that way since the 80's. I've \ just found, (through my own listening, maybe I'm just missing something or listening to the wrong bands?) that song structure for a black metal song is something like.
Intro- Long drawn power chords or some sort of keyboard opening, sounds ominous, usually pretty cool.
Riff A- 16th notes either a drone note or a scalar riff, punctuated by a dissonant chord, stacked tri-tones usually?
Riff A subdivided into 32nd notes.
Chorus
Riff A
Riff B (a pre-bridge section)
Bridge/solo section- Maybe riff A again, but in a different key with some ridiculous shredding over top, sweep picking, two-handed tapping, tremolo picking you name it, it's all here. haha
Chorus
Outro- Dude screaming into the microphone, the rhythm section is about to pass out from playing thirty-second notes as quickly as they possibly can, the guitarist on his last end followed by some abrupt stop signified by a huge crash cymbal hit.
Again, maybe I'm just listening to the really bad stuff. haha
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