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| Author: | Nuku [ Wed May 17, 2006 9:42 pm ] |
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http://thelaststand.dell.com.edgesuite.net/sneakpeek/large.html 7 Min preview, Fraiser looks good as Beast! Magneto FTW! |
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| Author: | Ponuh [ Wed May 17, 2006 10:12 pm ] |
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How they convince these Thespian actors to do these movies is beyond me, haha. I suppose everyone needs a little dough. Macbeth doesn't always pay the bills. |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Thu May 18, 2006 5:21 am ] |
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Dont kid yourself. X-men is a comic book classic. That comic book as well as others (with others like superman, spider-man and Batman) are cultural icons. Many actors would kill for the part of Spider-man, Batman, Superman and so on. |
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| Author: | Daedalan [ Thu May 18, 2006 8:27 am ] |
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I'd have to agree with Yarr on that one, the comic book character from the x-men universe are icons, and have intensely huge backstories to them, which for any good actors you always want the deepest character possible. The heroes and villians of those worlds have so many conflicting emotions and backstory elements that drive what they do, its like an emotional actors dream come true because they have so much to draw on and feel like they are apart of when they "become" the character. Alot of male actors would kill to be spiderman or batman or superman, can you image the sheer volume of ass you get for being one of those dudes even once.... i mean that toby mcguire dude for spiderman nailed kristen dunst during the filming... he wasn't even a full spiderman yet and she was already jumping his bones. |
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| Author: | Eternus [ Thu May 18, 2006 9:30 am ] |
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Yeah I am definitely going to see this. I liked both of the previous movies in addition to being a fan of the comic. While I don't read X-Men anymore (or any comics for that matter) I still remember the comic fairly well. I am interested in seeing how they handle the whole Phoenix thing. Who knows I might hate it lol. |
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| Author: | Shuichi [ Thu May 18, 2006 1:27 pm ] |
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Fraiser is a little "whispy" (not like the onion head) to be playing Beast IMO. But he does have the intelligence part down pat. It seems the movie is going to be good, but I feel it's a little too soon to jump into the whole Dark Pheonix thing. But oh well. |
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| Author: | Daedalan [ Thu May 18, 2006 1:59 pm ] |
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yeah the dark phoenix is way rushed... that should have been a whole 3 movies by itself. They didn't develop her at all as a character before they made her into the phoenix. Whatever though I wanna see her kick someones ass, and I wanna see Rogue kill someone with her powers and get new abilties permanently. I want gambit to throw something and make it blow up, and I wanna see storm go insane, and I want to definitely see colossus and juggernaut fight. If any of it is acutally gonna happen.. i doubt it. they are probaly gonna have a ton of random and oddly placed short scene fights where the loser gets blown through a wall and never comes back into the shot, like toad from the first xmen when he fought storm. oh and they are gonna make iceman and pyro fight and iceman is gonna turn full ice supposedly... yeah for iceman, i guess being an omega mutant has perks in the movies too eh? |
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| Author: | Madisonli [ Thu May 18, 2006 2:09 pm ] |
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This movie is going to be insane, if you like alot of action. The second x-men movie was more about a deep story, and while still a great movie, lacked alot of action and important characters got very little attention. x-3 brings in a new director as well as a good story and great action, going to be very visually thrilling. Also characters like storm, wolvie and beast lead the pack in x-3, as according to the show where storm was second in command, and beast who was absent from the first two is a great addition to the cast, they couldnt have picked someone more interestng and perfect IMO for the role of beast, the movie is going to be so exciting! according to reviews from private screenings of the movie, storm leads the xmen in the 3rd film, (( for reasons wich I wont say but if your not mentally retarded you probably already figured it out )) and theres alot of focus on magento (( wich is a good thing because ian mckellen plays the character so brilliantly)) alot of focus is dropped from characters who got alot of attention in the first two films, IE rogue and cyclopse arent in much of x-3. And now Pheonix, from what i've read famke plays this role magnificantly, even though its not identical to the comic or television show, reviews say she brings an outstanding presence to the character angel dissapointingly only has like 2 scenes in the movie >-< Anyways i'm really excited to see all the action, and I hear that kitty pryde kicks juggernauts ass and calls him a dick head lmfao one thing that saddens me very much is that mystique, one of my favorites, wont be in too much of the 3rd film. Wich is a shame because the character is so interesting, I wont give any hints to what happens to her but its very sad;;;;;;;;; MOVIE IS OUT IN 1 WEEK GO SEE IT OR DIIEIEIEIEIIE |
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| Author: | Ponuh [ Thu May 18, 2006 3:02 pm ] |
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It's a comic book classic, but that doesn't mean that clasically trained actors would be drawn to it, haha. |
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| Author: | Sunshine [ Thu May 18, 2006 3:38 pm ] |
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I'm a classically trained actor and I would kill for a part! |
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| Author: | Eternus [ Thu May 18, 2006 3:53 pm ] |
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Ponuh wrote: It's a comic book classic, but that doesn't mean that clasically trained actors would be drawn to it, haha.
They all just want money anyways. The previous 2 movies made money, so being in the third could not hurt their wallets. |
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| Author: | Daedalan [ Thu May 18, 2006 4:13 pm ] |
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Ponuh wrote: It's a comic book classic, but that doesn't mean that clasically trained actors would be drawn to it, haha.
lol missing the point, a classicaly trained actor could appreciate the depth of the character that you can have from the storylines that were made over the years for these characters. Its not like they are being told to play Agent smith, a black guy who suddenly finds himself to be an alien criminal detective. The xmen character have so much backstory to them its crazy. |
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| Author: | Ponuh [ Thu May 18, 2006 5:02 pm ] |
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Daedalan wrote: Ponuh wrote: It's a comic book classic, but that doesn't mean that clasically trained actors would be drawn to it, haha. lol missing the point, a classicaly trained actor could appreciate the depth of the character that you can have from the storylines that were made over the years for these characters. Its not like they are being told to play Agent smith, a black guy who suddenly finds himself to be an alien criminal detective. The xmen character have so much backstory to them its crazy. Depth of character? It's X-Men here. Comic books. |
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| Author: | Reinheld [ Thu May 18, 2006 5:16 pm ] |
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Media doesn't degrade the quality of writing, it usually speaks for itself. There are quite a large number of brilliantly written comics. |
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| Author: | Daedalan [ Thu May 18, 2006 9:36 pm ] |
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Ponuh wrote: Daedalan wrote: Ponuh wrote: It's a comic book classic, but that doesn't mean that clasically trained actors would be drawn to it, haha. lol missing the point, a classicaly trained actor could appreciate the depth of the character that you can have from the storylines that were made over the years for these characters. Its not like they are being told to play Agent smith, a black guy who suddenly finds himself to be an alien criminal detective. The xmen character have so much backstory to them its crazy. Depth of character? It's X-Men here. Comic books. LoL the characters in comics books for the most part are extremely well done, there is alot of storyline behind those character with lots of history creating and driving their reasons for taking the actions that they take. Have you ever read the complete history for any of these characters? Such as wolverine or phoenix? They have alot of plot twists and details and storyline and points that are made through their writing. Just because something is drawn doesn't mean its kiddie. Thats a western belief that cartoons and comics are kiddie and for kids. Pay more attention to the details and you will see they have alot of beautiful concepts and ideas in comics and anime, you just have to be willing to accept it as more then just a cartoon. Loss of imagination and acceptance is a very real and detrimental problem in our world today. |
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| Author: | Ponuh [ Fri May 19, 2006 8:58 am ] |
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Hey, I'm not saying I'm not a fan of comics, but this whole thing has gotten blown out of proportion by most people I know. This is a story about mutant powers here people, not tales of mystery and intrigue and the fallacy of our own humanity. The backstory for the characters simply follows the standard outline for the hero's journey. They incorporate some unique sci-fi elements, but it no way is X-Men a work of classic fiction or anything. The character's actions can be summed up and predicted just by how their specific character archetype should act. Heroes will always eventually do what is right for their friends or humanity, and villains will do what they can to save themselves or destroy humanity. And I'm not going to touch anime with a 10 foot pole here. For one, I haven't seen enough to justify my claims and two, I'm not going to bash anyone here who happens to like anime. |
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| Author: | Daedalan [ Fri May 19, 2006 9:06 am ] |
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All stories can be summed up into archetypes, thats why the quantative class of archetypes was developed in the first place, to recognise and categorize the characters of stories/myth/legends/fables or whatever else you want to use. You can generalize anything, granted some characters fit into two varying archetypes, or change archtypes through the course of a work of fiction, but thats not an exclusive topic to classical literature. Comic book storylines are as diverse, and the characters routinely change their archetype depending on the public consumption, and what the writer invisions for his character at the time. |
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