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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:06 am 
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good job finding these
and reason why we arent banned or reported is simple
because none of us r using that
oh and u dont believe?
nothing i can do

u guys already have the mindset that we cheat bla bla
nothing we can do to change wat u think
but wat made me furious is "KFC this and that"
u guys always KFC here KFC there because u guys always see us on the HNM areas when u ARE there...u do not know who won pulls etc etc when u are NOT there

or maybe because its some MPK issues alot of people /tell me about Fxxnir
and also some of us remembering CKD claiming our Kxxg Behexxxh @1% HP(those who r there from CKD know who u r)
so its now 1 for 1.....evens,call it a quits,and i dont recall anymore harrassments we did to each other ever since, which is a good sign

lets not talk about the Fxxnir and Kxxg Behexxxx thingy after this line since its considered "even out"

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now back to topic

i need someone to explain to me what better cheats r icarus wings and swllows using since they usually outpull us("oh is it true?" some of u thinking now since,like i said, u were not there and only assume on wat u see)
pls help me find out ultimaj
i think i am more interested in that

and yes i thank yarr for setting a private section to discuss this(at least we dont know the details and u can say watever u like) and not BOOM these and that on something "u think" and not "100% sure" to accuse others on public(unless ultimaj u r pretty sure abt this and help me investigate Micro's house since r good in this)

this makes u(picture poster) look like those nasty reporters in Hong Kong capturing any rumours and publish them on the papers without thinking

Finally, some sentence i spot some of u like to use when tired of see what i am typing "OMG u cannot type a proper sentences, ur english sux" and such.......Yes my english sucks because i live in a Asia country and not in america, I Apologise(or is it "gize")

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:16 am 
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and to be on a fair side of "why only JP can win pulls"

JP always wins enough said.....Its all about the Latency
i feel for all of u NAs having a disadvantage Latency because not only u guys
even Me living in Asia Singapore,usually see NMs pop in purple

this is some problem SquareEnix have and not "Fxxk KFC win pulls again"

not only HNMs

even Mee Deegi The Punisher pop purple to me when i was a poor little DRK camping Kotes in Oztroja

yes Blame SquareEnix


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:51 am 
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hey arthars.

First off, we dont have to agree on anything. People in KFC dont have to admit to you they use the cheats. However, that WHM you guys bring with you all the time to the Adamantoise camp 9/10 times gets the pull and she even subs WAR. Her name starts with an H, ive seen her with an Icarus Wings pearl too I think.,

Im not going to argue with you that Icarus Wings uses bots. Its so clear its not even funny. Mura-Bot as we call her never seems to lose a pull, nor does any of her fellow linkshell'ers.

We dont blame the japanese players for having the lag advantage.

We blame you guys for camping Behemoth, Adamantoise and Fafnir and never taking a break. Look at Icarus Wings and Negg, they dont camp them all the time. They just mostly camp when its Japanese hours, leaving the NA hours to NA player. Well, NA players and KFC who seems to like spending 4AM camping a turtle until 8AM in the morning, because we know how important it is for you guys to get your ore.

God forbid you guys actually let up and let someone else have a crack at one of the Kings.

We dont hate KFC because they have an "Advantage with lag" We hate you guys because youre a bunch of no good loot whores who just camp the same garbage every day so your 8th job can have a full set of A. Abj while 99% of the NA comunity will never see items like that because of greedy people like you.

NA players help each other out, you guys just just look out for yourselves. you should see the stupid things Ocean says, he refuses to believe us when we say we "camp items to help our friends".

KFC is greedy, thats all there is too it.

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Just don't hope a english version will be released :x

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:42 pm 
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the WHM that u say is Halcion and LOL shes not in Icaruswings

its really surprising how u came up with that


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:48 pm 
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i have told these to kayne and fattino before

Yarr do u think it pop HQs everyday?
and when it pop HQs do u think we win every HQs?
Yarr do u think we r so lucky like u guys gettin A.ABJ and W.ABJ in one aspi every kill?
or do u think we r so lucky to get 2 skin 2 horn and a shining cloth from a King Behemoth every pull we managed to get?

and to conclude we r a HNM LS....so our target is HNM(i dont see enything wrong with that) we r not every "everything orientated" like CKD(Dynamis,Missions etc etc)
we only focus on ground NMs and thats why if u bother to count we have lesser osedes or W>ABJ legs compare to u guys

since u asked let me tell u frankly
we still short of some players without A.ABJ body and we only have 2-3 W.ABJ body wat about Koenig? LOL our last(and only koenig body) drop from it was like 2 months ago and never saw any since then

and i dont see why u guys think KFC r the only ones "obstructing" u and now saying we cheat
like i said its up to wat u think
the brain is in ur head not mine

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:51 pm 
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if u really needs it bad
juz form a CKD HNM Pearl and compete out with the rest

dont sit and complain in forum how bad we r and such when u guys only went like......a couple of times?

we camp for it
so we get the items fair and square

wat do u want? "lets go today since we r free" then "omg KFC win its tired lets not come again they cheat bla bla" then then wait for the ABJ to be sent to u via Moogle Community

and this is ur forum not mine
away ground disadvantage

i shall stop i will go reflect myself and so do u


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:55 pm 
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Arthars wrote:
Yarr do u think it pop HQs everyday?
and when it pop HQs do u think we win every HQs?
Yarr do u think we r so lucky like u guys gettin A.ABJ and W.ABJ in one aspi every kill?
or do u think we r so lucky to get 2 skin 2 horn and a shining cloth from a King Behemoth every pull we managed to get?

and to conclude we r a HNM LS....so our target is HNM(i dont see enything wrong with that) we r not every "everything orientated" like CKD(Dynamis,Missions etc etc)
we only focus on ground NMs and thats why if u bother to count we have lesser osedes or W>ABJ legs compare to u guys


Considering the fact that with you guys and Icarus Wings whoring HNMs, every single day no matter the hour, I think its a fair trade. Your going to complain about 2 or 3 people not having Abjuration Bodies in your LS and you really expect us to feel sorry for you? Give me a break... We have a total of 2 Aburation Bodies from kings and 3 from Kirin... How many does each of KFC have? I know for a fact that Gana put in one of his comments that he had Marital, Aquatic and another body Aburation... :roll:

I have no idea why anyone in that LS would be complaining...

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If you want the kings thats fine, but you guys wake up at 4AM or even 8AM in the morning just to camp Fafnir the day after you killed Nidhogg.

how is that normal, you guys are a bunch of freaks who have no lives. It a game stop monopolizing the HNMs, youre no better than a bunch of retarded gil sellers.

Besides, even if you didnt cheat, you guys are total cockgobblers for sacraficing your personal lives and sleep just to get a stupid item.

Camp HNMs when its your time zone, dont camp them when they are in ours.

oh and for the record. Just because CKD can actually organize more things than HNM voke fests, doest mean we shouldnt have as much right to those HNMs as you.

youre not an HNM LS youre a pathetic group of circle jerkers who get off on camping HNMs at any hour of the day.

then again, thats just my inside my brain. oh wait no, thats who you guys really are.

"Hey we just killed Fafnir 5 days in a row then got nidhogg, lets go camp Fafnir tomorrow, I need A. Abj feet for my bard whos level 12.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:09 pm 
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Wow Arthars your Retarded lol.

We have gone to countless Turtle Camps to be out Voked by a whm...
the only dam reason we got a King tutle was b/c Mirco inrupted Dia on it and Ilma voked it. thats the only Way we got it and everytime we go to Even get a normal turtle all your little KFC ppl are loging in at the spot..... omfg are you serous? and not to mention 90% of the time the ppl who are there don't Even need the Drops off the turtle. You guys log in at like 3-5am your time...... Sersouly i think SE counted on JP get HNMs at JP time and NA get HNMs at NA times but never thought any Loot Whore ppl would just hound both times.. Serously how do u log in at 3-5am JP time and Expect not to be called a loot whore from any NAs. Do any of you have jobs to go to the next day or FFXI you job acorrding to ocean.

No we don't think that Abj drops off Every HNM but again how would we know with KFC little goons Camping S??t that they don't Even need oh sorry maybe Mirco needs a Second black belt fot his Manquinn my fault.

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KFC has different goals than us. They want ground HNM only. We have sky and when the update is done, we'll be ready for sea. I don't think any other LS even among JPs has enough people to raid sea on the first day. lol That is, if there aren't more CoP missions blocking the way.


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And on the topic of body abj, I've pretty much lost all hope that I'll ever get adaman hauberk (and I know KFC throws them away, and I don't care) and this shit just doesn't bother me anymore. Ya, I want one. But whatever. It's not worth getting upset over now.

I'll wait on getting angry til I see a gimp NA DRK in one because his LS removed .dat files from darters or something. lol


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People throwing out Abjurations from kings because its not the one they "needed" just makes me sick... and seeing 2 KFC BSTs in full Adaman and Ridill's makes me even sicker... and seeing 2 KFC BSTs in full Adaman at a normal Adamantoise pop makes me even sicker... this game is going to give me cancer...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:27 pm 
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... and seeing 2 KFC BSTs in full Adaman at a normal Adamantoise pop makes me even sicker...


lol!

Add 5am jp/asia time at the end, makes it more true and funny =p

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So what are you doing to night?

Oh I was going to sleep like a normal human.

Really? Well I was going to wake up at 5AM and camp a digital monster for 3 hours because my digital penis needs to be bigger.

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Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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Damn I never expected to see this on this forum lol. I guess its good that it came out lets both sides know how they truly feel about one another

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bleh the competition sucks, but i still blaim SE for a crappy claim system. i remember camping charybdis and another NA ls was like wtf everyone in ckd already has a joyeuse, which wasnt the case, but it sounded like some NA ls talking about JP HNM ls so kinda gives you that perspective.

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To side track a little bit.

Back to very first post, and the pic.
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If you've ever used widescan to try to camp an NM before, or anything for that matter, you know that the widescan actually shows the NM before it appears. Significantly before. Almost, say, 1-3 seconds before. I'm going to take a wild guess, and assume that widescan works by plotting a variety of points on a grid. The map is nothing more than a background image plastered behind the grid. Thus, why widescan works in areas that you don't have a map to.

Secondly, as you may or may not know, depending on your lvl and job (you'd be surprised how few ppl know that BST has widescan), the radius of the widescan itself can change. Therefore, when you hit the widescan button, it most likely compiles a list of mobs and coordinates using a method that takes a radius as its parameter, and plots those coordinates on the grid. In that JP bot, you actually had to supply a radius to get a result; therefore, rather than just reading a list of mob coordinates, it must be placing an actual call to that method, and plotting the feedback on its own grid; in essence, doing a widescan with a custom radius in a separate window.

Now, diverging a bit... that which intrigues me most is the ID number. that mob's id, as said on the image, allows one to instantaneously provoke it. /ja Provoke MobID. When someone uses a command like that, it sidesteps the need to target the thing before using the ability on it. I believe, in all sincerity, that this is the TRUE secret behind "claimed spawns." It makes total sense, too: you can't provoke things unless you target them, and the few second delay in between when the memory receives the data about the mob about to spawn and when the mob object actually becomes targettable. I'd actually guess there's a boolean for every object in the game that determines the Targetable attribute. When you kill a mob, for instance, targettable goes false. Sometimes, there's a glitch, and you still target a dead mob. Those are instances in which the targettable aspect was never turned off. Now, notice that even though you can target the thing, you cant use any abilities on it. This explains the mechanics of using abilities in FFXI. When you target a mob, the game sees a certain ID. That ID is shown for the Lost Soul in the screenshot. This is a major oversimplification, but to understand it better, picture this... When you say, for instance, /ja Provoke <t>, the game will send out a message to the server saying "i've used the provoke ability on the target of this ID". if the server ok's it, the ability goes through, and all is well. However, if the specified ID isn't there, the server rejects it, and nothing happens. Thus, why though you target the dead mob, you cannot use abilities on it. The server rejected the ID call.

So... what does all this mean? If you were to know the ID of the mob before it was obtainable from the Target system, and send a request to use a job ability on that ID... you'd have used that ability on the mob, and claimed the mob, before it ever became targettable. And thus, the TRUE explanation behind Claimed Spawns.

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This from when you were a mod of a hack site forums?


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No, this is recent.

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arthas theres no denying you guys have the advantage, what you guys need to do is lay off the gods and let others have a crack at it. Even saying this, it wont work you guys will continue to camp it and people (not only ckd) will continue to complain. So let the cycle continue as ususal

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Does no good to ask for them to back off, Mikey... When people have asked we get the same responses from them. "We want to stop hunting all the time but so-and-so won't let us." They throw blame on everyone but themselves and still show up at 3am to camp a normal Adamantoise just so they can keep the timer... I don't know wether to hate them or pity them because if your that desparate for something to do you need to get out and make some friends in real life.

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Here is the org. link to this pic post... The topic name doesn't speak for itself. ^^;

http://www.thesentinels.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=192

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