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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:10 am 
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haha....I know some of you are angry(Sorry fattino)....but I thought it was fun tonight wiping then trying again vs you guys tonight. We wiped, you wiped, you wiped, we won =P.

Anyway here is a screeny of vinnie stunning it after ya'll attempt had gone sour. We had an agreement not to steal....but I guess he thought you all were goners lol.

P.S. Littlejohn has camped for a 100+ hours for that sword. ^_^

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:32 am 
Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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what was more amusing was the fact that i got several tells from certain ppl telling me im fucked up for helping 1 player... fattino. it wasnt ckd.. it was fattino. i was getting pieces to the mermaid ring quest, whisp raised me after i died from a random as hell but nicely trained mind gazer. i said id lend them a hand, they got ppl to help. why the hell does everyone turn everything into some big LS rumble.

IMO teaming up and having PLDs lot woulda saved deaths and drama... not like its not 100% drop and doesnt spawn the next night. eh but what does it matter. theres always gonna be someone to feed the NA vs NA bit.. sad when NA MPK each other instead of helping. for the record im not in HK or CKD, and am willing to help anyone as long as im not getting used... grats on the sword. wanna flame me for helping someone, /blacklist you can have this. peace

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:40 am 
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I want to add my bit on this. I went there i stood on the sidelines and raised the dead. Thats I did. I didnt heal either side. I have friends both in Hokuten and CKD. So I went there as a neutral person. When Hokuten tagged i sad many times for them to let it go. Some did, but as you can see they all didnt. You guys can hate me or what not, but I at least helped in the only way I could really. I am sorry for the deaths, I am really sorry Fattino you didnt get it. And to anyone who thought I was healing anyone, I wasnt whoever told you such things is a lie. Anyways, once again Fattino I am sorry.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:49 am 
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Actually, we didn't wipe yet until AFTER you guys claimed.

(on our 2nd attempt)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:49 am 
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From what I heard, we still had 2 Paladins and a lot of mages up, that's enough to finish Charybdis at 10% Health.

Can't say I'm happy about hearing this, kinda little more annoyed that you then go and post screenshots about it, effectively saying "We stole it, but good game"? Seriously, the point is...?

I don't think that the fact the NM spawns next day really has any weight, we all know there could easily be other/more LS's camping it the next day, not to mention the Charybdis NM is notorious for spawning very very late (up to 7 hours ive heard) which means it might not even spawn before everyone needs sleep before they collapse.

Ky, you did the only thing you could, nobody is going to hold it against you.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:06 am 
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Lets see what words mean..... Wipe= everyone in the other allience or party have all DIED. Not all of our guys had died and yet you pull it? Serously what are you guys thinking? Do you have one little piece of common sense? Even in the SS triddy is saying that they arn't done yet. omg i'm so pissed in done posting it's like talking to a wall.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:18 am 
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That's just pretty lame from seeing what's going on in the SS.

That camp sucks big time, you stole it like that not only showing you have no common courtesy and you want to rub it more. That kind of fuck up screenshot doesn't belong to CKD's website. You want to celebrate; you have your own linkshell board. :x


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:35 am 
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welcome to the CKD black list. Dont expect to come to anything I organize. I try to help the good people on this server, not the people who Attend my raid then 2 hours later steal an NM from the very people whos set it up and ran it all. and on top of that come here to brag about it.

lol thats just sheer stupidity. I guess pirotess tought you well.

More will be added as I gather more information. Although Littlejohn's preformance was so bad he wasnt going to be invitied back anyway.

This is not a temp ban. Unless some new information comes up, dont even bother going to the Dynamis sign ups.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:47 am 
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That's the saddest thing I have ever seen... I have to question your intelligence for posting this and showing it was a blatant and intentional steal and then trying to play it off as a great duel between LS's or something. I have to question if this was a congradulatory post or just a "HAHAHAHA we beat you!" type of thing. It looks like to me you MPK'd your own member Sangsogin... good job! :x

Kyilen if anyone gives you s*** about this tell me, I won't be nice about people being asses to those that want to do the right thing. I hear Hitmanr got a lot of flak from even thinking about helping fight this NM. To those in that pic... I'm seriously disappointed... Diamblomo by the way, who do you have to thank for that Assault Jerkin? :x

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:56 am 
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Yarr,

You missed Vinnie!! Add one to the blist.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:02 am 
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ok add Vinnie


Xiona, were you involved?


Stuff like this is just more of a reason to make the Dynamis raids private.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:40 am 
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I'm just in awe.. You steal an NM, then you post a thread about it on our boards?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:06 am 
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My thoughts:
1st, Peejo, HK has their boards, and plenty space to brag.
2nd, I dont know where you pull out these pathetic rules about an NM being yours. Its your NM when you have it claimed, If i can take it, it becomes mine. If you lost it, then its not your NM. I say this taking no side, (HK or CKD) since i'm in neither LS's, but dont brag about something you didnt have.
3rd, I'm terribly dissapointed in Kotee for comming here and posting what he did. Its nothing for you to brag about. I wasnt there, i wasnt even in FFXI when i heard this was happening, and looked at sang's monitor. I dont agree with the action Kotee took in comming and posting here.
4th, I hear Yarr saying he's only helping people, but i never have seen him actually help people. What is there to help? Since you have to be 70+, have {sky} and R5+ to actually be in CKD, there's not much more "help" a person would need. If you call Cussing on LS because the person who got the "Juggernaut" off Overloard when helping you in killing it with CKD, then i'm mistaken by your leadership. My point is, CKD banning these people will bring you no good, in fact only makes me look at this situation as if the both HR & CKD (group who was there), are even. You have to realized neither HK or CKD needs help for Dynamis runs.
5th, I'm not flaming at yarr, piro, CKD or HK, I'm just saying what i think about the situation, and how pathetic is to brag about who won and who didnt, who's getting panalized and who isnt.

Events like this that makes me not ever wanna join an LS again.

Flame away please, maybe i'll get a couple of good laughs of how people will react to this.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:10 am 
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Not sure if I should laugh or cry.

Even though I couldn't make it yesturday to help Fattino kill this thing, now I totally feel bad about it, knowing something like this happened.. More of us should've been there to kill it smoothly.

First few people in ur LS try to mpk our members at serket.
<Insert random incident here that we are just like, wahtever, overlooked>
Then you take a mob that pops every day + drops the sword 100%, and you laugh about it.

If you guys are aiming to become like that most hated Japanese LS on Ifrit, by all mean, congratulations, you are almost there. Besides mpking, stealing mobs, bad mouthing, all you need to do is all move to japan and have better pings than the rest of the NAs.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:14 am 
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Mobs names go yellow when your fighting it and there isnt a thing you can do about it. So you say that anyone can tag it? Is that how we should treat HNM when hokuten goes after them? Hell, Behemoth is fought straight up and should never go yellow, yet last time I was there i saw him go yellow. You saying thats open territory for claim? So that in the process you MPK them because they have a shitload of aggro built up. No matter how you defend it, a mobs name going yellow while fighting it is a game error, and should not happen, but seeingas it does happen it gives NO reason saying that its free to claim.

CKD raids are exactly that, CKD raids. You piss us off, we have every reason to ban you. You say CKD doesnt help people, just hosting a Dynamis raids is a huge help, seeing as some hokuten people have won AF2, so that would mean CKD helped them get AF2.

Also, when people post asking for help, CKD members can and will offer help, and anyone can ask for help here.

Theres a saying, "Dont bite the hand that feeds you", it seems that hokuten has bitten said hand too many times, and the consequence beeing a Dynamis Ban is more than fitting.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:22 am 
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I didnt see the name going yellow on this fight. I saw alot of mistakes and deaths though. And well i woulnt say its right to try killing it when its yellow, but i dont remember the GM saying it was wrong either. Its up to you to think if its worth it or not, if its MPK or not.

Helping people with the CKD runs are BS. If people dont go, the runs never would happen, one hand washes another, dont be cocky about it because its the truth. I'm sure they will be able to find plenty other Dynamis runs to go off to.

And no, i have never seen CKD help anyone without it being benefitial to at least 1 person participating. Help it is, but if there was no benefit from it, i doubt there would be help. I dont mean to generalize it either, Ilma has helped me plenty of times with sang, but i dont see him here bragging about it, i'v had Kyilen help me plenty of times, but i guess she's not even in the private forums anymore.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:27 am 
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Whatever, I'm not trying to derail this thread, it will be handled the way it is handled, no use arguing with a wall.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:28 am 
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wtf

Well, I've never really fought an NM that had to go unclaimed but... my way of looking at it is if they have enough people left to kill it, leave 'em be. So what if it goes yellow? If it goes yellow and you claim it it's just going to kill them anyway because of built up aggro, so that's one bad thing. If I personally had enough people (a few PLDs and some mages) left to kill it and it was only at 10% health, I'd be pretty pissed off. There's no way you can justify stealing it when it was that close to being dead. It's not like you were there with a bunch of JP LS and if you didn't spam claim it would be lost. Greed :|


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hmmm

how to answer this one....

Well, I never cussed anyone out for winning Juggermynuts, I just talked to them in a mature manner explaining the situation and how we normally do loot in CKD. There was no drama or arguing there. If you think there was you are mistaken.

If you want to claim an NM while someone if fighting it go ahead, just watch who you take it from.

Kioto I help people all the time. However, I have a full linkshell of people who are what I consider very good friends. Each and every day I spend alot of time trying to help every one of them. I also love helping people with Level 50 cap, for some reason I like to take out the crub and kill skeletons all night long. However, Im a very very busy person in game and I dont even get enough time to do the stuff I want to do (like Level SMN) because I dont put myself before my linkshell.

I may not run around helping people I dont know, but I did setup the forum for that purpose. Thanks to the forums lots of people have setup Missions, quest and coffer hunting together.

If you want to steal form CKD fine, just dont ask to come along on Dynamis. Youre more than welcome to join another Dynamis raid, just not mine. Thats my choice.

I dont want people thinking they can just take an NM, brag about it on our fourms and get away with it.

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As for saying Yarr doesn't help people, I'll say this once and once only, Shut the F*** Up! He doesn't just help people in CKD, he helps this whole server all the time, and those of you that accuse him of loot whoring and never helping people need to shut the hell up because they know nothing on this matter. Everything from simple coffers to missions to raising strangers to sky access to Proms he goes out of his way to help people get done. Oh, and there's that little thing we call Dynamis that he arranges twice a week. Kotee f***ing admits that there was an agreement not to steal the damn thing and laughs about doing it anyway. I'm sick of people thinking that CKD is a bunch of loot whores when we probably camp half the NM's that Hokuten, FS and the Sentinels do. I'm sick of the grief people get from other LS's about how much they hate them for wearing a yellow pearl. Finally, I'm really sick of any and all CKD vs. Hokuten BS which is simply Yarr vs. Piro and it got old months ago. I don't want to hear excuses from people who blantanly pulled a stunt like this and then post a screenshot of themselves cheering about doing it. Seriously, f***ing grow up...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:32 am 
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Kioto wrote:
My thoughts:
1st, Peejo, HK has their boards, and plenty space to brag.

This is exactly my point, they have their own site, take it over there. This kind of screenshot is not welcome on CKD board.

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2nd, I dont know where you pull out these pathetic rules about an NM being yours. Its your NM when you have it claimed, If i can take it, it becomes mine. If you lost it, then its not your NM. I say this taking no side, (HK or CKD) since i'm in neither LS's, but dont brag about something you didnt have.

It is common courtesy in the end game, if some one has a mob claimed, you wait until they all died, you take it over. In this screenshot, it's clearly, CKD still has people alive to take it. You provoke it while the other party is fighting it, it's called steal no way to justify it. I don't know where you see CKD bragging, but I for sure didn't see any in that screenshot. I am also glad you aren't in CKD because you aren't worth it.

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3rd, I'm terribly dissapointed in Kotee for comming here and posting what he did. Its nothing for you to brag about. I wasnt there, i wasnt even in FFXI when i heard this was happening, and looked at sang's monitor. I dont agree with the action Kotee took in comming and posting here.

I guess we can agree on this one. Personally I think it's a very retarded action.

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4th, I hear Yarr saying he's only helping people, but i never have seen him actually help people. What is there to help? Since you have to be 70+, have {sky} and R5+ to actually be in CKD, there's not much more "help" a person would need. If you call Cussing on LS because the person who got the "Juggernaut" off Overloard when helping you in killing it with CKD, then i'm mistaken by your leadership. My point is, CKD banning these people will bring you no good, in fact only makes me look at this situation as if the both HR & CKD (group who was there), are even. You have to realized neither HK or CKD needs help for Dynamis runs.

You aren't in CKD, you don't follow Yarr 24/7. How in the world you know Yarr never help anyone? Yarr has done a lot for his friends than you can ever image in your little head. You have no room to talk shit about Yarr here. If according to you neither HK or CKD needs help for dynamis than what's all the fussy about? It's no big deal since HK doesn't need CKD in Dynamis right? I can tell you this, CKD ban those people because those people have to be responsible for their own actions. It's called learn a lesson and grow up.

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5th, I'm not flaming at yarr, piro, CKD or HK, I'm just saying what i think about the situation, and how pathetic is to brag about who won and who didnt, who's getting panalized and who isnt.

Kotee is the one who came here and brag. He's the one needs to be blamed that all other people will be banned because they are part of the deal in the screenshot. You already flammed Yarr in your #4 so I don't know what's your point other than flag yourself on the same level as Kotee and the gang from HK.

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Events like this that makes me not ever wanna join an LS again.

Good, no big loss here.

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Flame away please, maybe i'll get a couple of good laughs of how people will react to this.

Don't worry, there will be plenty of it. I got maybe 1 hour of work I have to do at work today. :lol:


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Well, i have so much to say about this, but its not my place to.

If this is about the post Kotee made, my response to that he's 100% wrong in posting here.

If this is about the NM being stolen, i think there's no such thing. You lost the target dont whine.

If this is about helping other people, i said abuve that i dont wanna categorize the whole linkshell for it. But saying you helping the whole server because you host runs is a but too much, since you cant do it without the server, makes it seem like your cocky and trying to suck up all the glory.

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Well, I never cussed anyone out for winning Juggermynuts, I just talked to them in a mature manner explaining the situation and how we normally do loot in CKD. There was no drama or arguing there. If you think there was you are mistaken.

*tsk* *tsk* i so happen to be watching that fight too, Sang wins the sowerd and the other person wins the Juggernaut, and in LS you bluntly cuss saying you should have won the lot because of this and that.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:48 am 
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In regards to Kioto

1st, We all know Hokuten has their own board.. thats the whole point... Welcome to like 2 months ago irl.

2nd, Ever heard of common courtesey? It ain't a rule but it should apply. Let the man finish. Ex. You want to take my woman before I'm done with her? I hope not. Dont' be a sl$t.

3rd, Agreed

4th, I guess Kioto stalks Yarr irl. Watching his every move. Grats yarr you have a mithra stalker.

5th, Agreed

Please. For you are one of the guy that got all Emotional with Sang when he stole Serket from other LS, and we wouldn't help him. Give me a break. Stop whining on our board. You have prooven to me you think stealing is right. Let it be.

As for saying ckd don't help no one, yea ok.. Not sure who gave you a CKD pearl for the past year..

Dynamis? No we are not cocky about it, we do these raid all the time for other people, for ourselves. Yarr puts these raids together becasue hes a nice guy, he likes to do major events for NAs on the server, plus the other nifty stuff he like to do also. Each time more that 64 people signs up. So I dont' think we are going to run into problem of not having enough people. If the others want to find a raid that runs smooth with plenty of af drops, be our guest. Good luck on that.

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