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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:53 am 
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Actually GM's can track if you've been using teleport and/or speed hacks.

They can profile your character which scans logs to determine your path of movement over a period of time. All it has to do is check the distance between a random Point A and Point B on your movement path, and compare it to the speed your character should be able to move. Obviously the profiler can take into account any usage of Flee items, Job abilities, etc, since all of those are logged by the server too.

They've been able to scan for speed hacking ever since the CPU overlock exploit. But in order to do it they need to run a tool on your character, so they won't do it unless you're reported.

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Anyway, actually I was writing an e-mail on my laptop and not even watching the fight for the most part, lol. I figured FS were going to have no trouble killing it so I was semi-afk.

Near the end of the fight I got a tell from someone to see if I could keep up with Zilart, so I ran a couple of laps and didn't notice anything that didn't look like lag. I mean everyone was skipping around the zone because of how many people were there.

But I only really paid attention to the last 10% or so, so if some hack was used at the beginning or something I wouldn't have noticed. Is this proof either way? Not really, just more input, lol.


Indeed they can, but this is reset when you zone.

So, if anyone else wants to be a uber hax0r like Zilart, prz just zone after done haxing.

Being that your 75, I wouldnt be suprised if you are perma banned from the game with a side note that says "never come back".

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I didnt think this thread would last all that long for a few reasons.


1) Clearly Zilart was using a hack. theres nothing to debate really. Its more just everyone lauging at Fate Sealers for once again getting loot they cant earn on their own. lol

2) Most of Fate Sealers just stayed away from here except for the retards that tried to stand up for Zilart lol. Oh and I like Superfly's sad attempt at not knowing whats going on. That made me giggle

3) The Ilama, Hcc and Kayne have H.A.D.D. and always distroy threads when they post off topic stuff cause they have no idea how to stay on topic.

4) Mocking Zilart and Fate Sealers is like making fun of that group of "Special Needs" kids from high school. Actually thats exactly what it is.

I'm going to say something here because I personally took a ton of hate when I decided to cut our ties with Fate Sealers. The main reason CKD created CKDy was because of retards like Zilart, Vaelen, Dustdevil and that retarded blm taco or whatever his name is. Constantly bitching, constantly getting loot and leaving for weeks. I use to like FS but after being burnt by so many people in that ls I just got sick of it.

I guess now we can assume that all those times that Fate Sealers was out pulling everyone at fafnir camps before the nerf was all because of Hacks. I just assume that we have only scrached the surface. I mean after all it was common knowlage that there were threads in the private (or not so private) FS forums about how to swap .dat files to pull stuff easier and things like that.

The reason I go on and on about this and make fun of FS over this is because I damn well hate cheaters. Anyone who posts here and knows me should know that. We had to put up with KFC and IW for so long and I expected so much better from FS. To see a North American linkshell resorting to hacks pisses me off. I work to hard to keep an honest linkshell.

The difference between CKD and FS is that if Zilart was in CKD (lol at that funny thought) he would have been removed from the linkshell before he was even let out of Jail.

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I didnt think this thread would last all that long for a few reasons.


1) Clearly Zilart was using a hack. theres nothing to debate really. Its more just everyone lauging at Fate Sealers for once again getting loot they cant earn on their own. lol

2) Most of Fate Sealers just stayed away from here except for the retards that tried to stand up for Zilart lol. Oh and I like Superfly's sad attempt at not knowing whats going on. That made me giggle

3) The Ilama, Hcc and Kayne have H.A.D.D. and always distroy threads when they post off topic stuff cause they have no idea how to stay on topic.

4) Mocking Zilart and Fate Sealers is like making fun of that group of "Special Needs" kids from high school. Actually thats exactly what it is.

I'm going to say something here because I personally took a ton of hate when I decided to cut our ties with Fate Sealers. The main reason CKD created CKDy was because of retards like Zilart, Vaelen, Dustdevil and that retarded blm taco or whatever his name is. Constantly bitching, constantly getting loot and leaving for weeks. I use to like FS but after being burnt by so many people in that ls I just got sick of it.

I guess now we can assume that all those times that Fate Sealers was out pulling everyone at fafnir camps before the nerf was all because of Hacks. I just assume that we have only scrached the surface. I mean after all it was common knowlage that there were threads in the private (or not so private) FS forums about how to swap .dat files to pull stuff easier and things like that.

The reason I go on and on about this and make fun of FS over this is because I damn well hate cheaters. Anyone who posts here and knows me should know that. We had to put up with KFC and IW for so long and I expected so much better from FS. To see a North American linkshell resorting to hacks pisses me off. I work to hard to keep an honest linkshell.

The difference between CKD and FS is that if Zilart was in CKD (lol at that funny thought) he would have been removed from the linkshell before he was even let out of Jail.


LOLOLOL werk'd

Yarr is such a asshole but I love that shit lol. This guy is like the Bill O'Reilly of Ifrit.

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The reason I go on and on about this and make fun of FS over this is because I damn well hate cheaters. Anyone who posts here and knows me should know that. We had to put up with KFC and IW for so long and I expected so much better from FS. To see a North American linkshell resorting to hacks pisses me off. I work to hard to keep an honest linkshell. was even let out of Jail.


Funny you should say this yet you love Valour. I can count many times while running to Boyhada tree I will see a few certain Valour member on chocos fly by me while I am on a choco.


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The reason I go on and on about this and make fun of FS over this is because I damn well hate cheaters. Anyone who posts here and knows me should know that. We had to put up with KFC and IW for so long and I expected so much better from FS. To see a North American linkshell resorting to hacks pisses me off. I work to hard to keep an honest linkshell. was even let out of Jail.


Funny you should say this yet you love Valour. I can count many times while running to Boyhada tree I will see a few certain Valour member on chocos fly by me while I am on a choco.



If a valour member is sent to jail while fighting king behemoth then I will hate that valour member too.

Valour is run by Zelphes who I respect as a fellow linkshell leader. When something is a little off I can count on zelphes looking into it for me.

I also dont love everyone in valour, there are a few people who rub me the wrong way but generally speaking as a linkshell its a good group of people. Well, better than TTK and FS lol. ;p

I also dont hate everyone in FS. I like a few of em. So like 3 of the 100 members are alright. Still, thats a pathetic number.

oh and I like zilarts avatar. lol

oh and lol Killuminati.

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Heh I heard this from my LS SuicideKingLS air and I was not too happy when someone use haxz to cheat the game.

To me I dont do any of mod or Hax to my program cuzz I rather have fun in honest char and show that I can do what real PLD can fight.

Well I am not into drama anyways but I like reading them. :o

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If a valour member is sent to jail while fighting king behemoth then I will hate that valour member too.

Valour is run by Zelphes who I respect as a fellow linkshell leader. When something is a little off I can count on zelphes looking into it for me.

I also dont love everyone in valour, there are a few people who rub me the wrong way but generally speaking as a linkshell its a good group of people. Well, better than TTK and FS lol. ;p
lol, i remember when imaulle was banned for doin something, pretty sure it was saying somethin outrageous though. and we all know vinnie and ima bot (lol joke)

Im glad i didnt miss much in this game, i should have to pay to read these forums for the minutes of excitement every day

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i should have to pay to read these forums for the minutes of excitement every day


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i got a 3 day ban for mpking SO twice in like 15 minutes and then i told the senior GM to go fuck himself because he sat there and watched SO mpk valour and he didnt do anything, the japanese "got mpked" so they were mpking us back, gm didn't do shit to zero and lipton... turns out it was FS that mpked them not valour so they told GM to tell us they were sorry and that it was a mistake


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Yarr should just charge the retards with "Jackass Extreme" under their avatar, $1 a post. This forum would clean up a little bit and everyone can relax, without all those childish remarks that don't make sense.

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i got a 3 day ban for mpking SO twice in like 15 minutes and then i told the senior GM to go fuck himself because he sat there and watched SO mpk valour and he didnt do anything, the japanese "got mpked" so they were mpking us back, gm didn't do shit to zero and lipton... turns out it was FS that mpked them not valour so they told GM to tell us they were sorry and that it was a mistake



GM should just let everyone mpk the heck out of each other haha, it's more fun that way. :lol:



Overlord Bagodek stayed up last week 5-6hours up due to massive mpk (got cfh like 5-8times) and every party wiped I don't know how many time. I lost like 4-5k xp in the process, but that was one of the best thing to ever happen.

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Kaylia, you being dead is more natural than Valisk being mad at everyone, it's ment to be. :wink:

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Kaylia, you being dead is more natural than Valisk being mad at everyone, it's ment to be. :wink:


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I'm not dying as much as before. I always try to be careful now.

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Ive never witnessed anyone using a speed hack i think i would know if someone from my ls was useing it. Zilart said he wasnt useing a hack so i have no reason to believe otherwize. We have no obligation to prove anything to yarr or any of you that are out to bash Zilart because you have a vindeta against him and honestly its none of your bussiness. He is one of the nicest people ive meet in game and his ls stands with him 100%

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1) Clearly Zilart was using a hack. theres nothing to debate really. Its more just everyone lauging at Fate Sealers for once again getting loot they cant earn on their own. lol

2) Most of Fate Sealers just stayed away from here except for the retards that tried to stand up for Zilart lol. Oh and I like Superfly's sad attempt at not knowing whats going on. That made me giggle

3) The Ilama, Hcc and Kayne have H.A.D.D. and always distroy threads when they post off topic stuff cause they have no idea how to stay on topic.

4) Mocking Zilart and Fate Sealers is like making fun of that group of "Special Needs" kids from high school. Actually thats exactly what it is.


:lol: lol what a dick. Its a game yarr get over yourself.

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Nah, I just spend more time in area with too weak, or town.

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Well Galka's have to stick together haha

Seriously though, with that pic that Matti posted, can anyone dispute this issue at all? I mean the GM flat out said, "Our tools showed that he was running much faster then just those two..." He was also punished for it, whatever that punishment was I don't know but how can anyone keep backing someone that was apparently cheating and blatantly lying about it? Unless this is some huge conspiracy against Zilart on behalf of the GM's of S-E then I don't know where we're proving his innocence here. Innocent until proven guilty... I think his defense lawyer has his work cut out for him.

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well fs obviously convinced themself that GM tools don't work because they obviously have a copy of the gm tools themself.. I want a copy too, can you link me please?

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I have a vindeta against anyone who is stupid enough to use a Speed hack infront of all their peers. Actually I hate anyone who uses hacks at all.

I mean seriously. Zilart comes off to me as one of those really really stupid bank robbers.

You know the kind, one thoses criminal who forgets to pull down his mask when he walks into the bank to rob it, or leaves his wallet and ID behind.



I have every right to get mad and mock anyone who makes such a stupid move as to use a hack at a huge camp. People like Zilart ruin this game for everyone else. Zilart doesnt have the skill to kite King Behemoth normally and someone who does have that skill should have been able to do it. This move on his part has (in my eyes and im sure more people agree) distroyed any respect that FS might have had. It's bad enough that they are the only linkshell left that has not kill Nidhogg from 100% to 0. God even TTK has killed Nidhogg.

Fate Sealers and everyone else on this server out side of CKD can hate me and think Im an asshole all they want. I get to be part of an awesome linkshell that plays 100% legit and has a ton of fun doing it.

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Yeah, I'm trying not to make it a whole FS thing, I like several people in FS like SS, and Mysk, Cresens, and Dalek, but to be that... I don't know... blinded? What would be the word for picking and choosing what you want to see and believe? Anyways, I just take the stand where, if you want to cheat, get a f***ing Gameshark and play single player games where you only effect yourself, and I don't care what LS your in be it FS, TTK, Valour, Mysidians, KFC, SO, IW, or even CKD you'd get a f*** you from me for getting caught or admitting to using them.

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3) The Ilama, Hcc and Kayne have H.A.D.D. and always distroy threads


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Its called giveing your friend the benifit of the doubt. If a key member of CKD was in Zilarts shoes you'd do the same.

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Its called giveing your friend the benifit of the doubt. If a key member of CKD was in Zilarts shoes you'd do the same.


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I'd best compare this to Fagonb and Aiame in Monarchy a while ago how blindly they followed them and even thou the proof was there none of the members wanted to accecpt it. Just Zilart with speed hacks and now he says no and GM says yes haha.

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