did they shoot him in a body part that wasn't fatal? like a leg or something?

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have any idea how hard it is to shoot a leg or arm under pressure of hundreds of people posibly dying while the person is running. its extremly hard and if you hit em dead on like that wtf are you doing being a undercover airplane person

they said that aiming for leg or arm is far less accurate (due to movement), so unlike the movies a "wound" shot in certain situations is far less realistic. basically in the heat of the moment they decided that this guy is not complying with their demands, then all the sudden he starts reaching into the suspected bag.

if the bag had a bomb in it people would be singing a different tune, but because some people dont see the potential lives that were saved and precident this sets it gets over shadowed. wanna bet people dont fuck around at the airport with the tangible threat of actually getting shot now =p before, the reality that it would happen wasnt there, now people see what happens and are less likely inclined.

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If there was a bomb, there is no non-fatal shoot that can guarantee anything. I think that the air marshal did say that it's extremely hard to make a non-leathal shot in that situation. But in reality, he knows if he fired that he would have to shoot to kill.

sry to say this. but if your so god damned sick to threaten to blow everyone up or run around saying bomb and screaming your head off. really you shouldnt be a part of society, or alive for that matter. sry for you loss wife person but if there bipolar crap was that bad you shoulda made sure they had tehre meds.

i dont care so much about that guy dying as i do about the fact that there are people out there that can take away my life if they interpret me as acting suspiciously. then again im the kind of person that sees police, army, government, etc, as a threat and not a service

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i can garuntee when a police officer or someone similar is pointing a gun at you if you yelling to do something, laying on the ground and not moving will prevent death...

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yea there was one time i went into a video store with a friend (aka Thunderstomp) and he was wearing a halloween mask, and when we exited the video game store there were about 6 police, one pointing a shotgun, the other pointing pistols at our heads. the guy with the shotgun charged me and pointed it at my forehead. i dropped to the ground to make sure they didn't think i was going to make any sudden moves.

so, yea, its true if i have a gun pointed at me i would drop to the ground. but that doesnt make what they're doing right.

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i agree that its shouldnt have to come to that, but humans are stupid. it takes strong action and actual evidence of reinforcement for things to truely work. while it sucks this guy has been made a "perfect example". people know now that if theyre willing to shoot someone who turned out not having a bomb, they arent going to hold back on someone who is more suspect. seeing is believing and this case holds true with the policy now enforced to keep people traveling safer.

example: my mother announces that the cookies shes been baking are now safely cooling on the rack and my brothers and i cannot have any, (mother is the air marshals and their policy, cookies are people, rack is the plane, brothers and i are would be "terrorists").

mother informs me that if we attempt to take, damage or threaten them from being cooled i will be in big trouble, (my hand taking, threatening, or damaging them would be the bomb or terrorist act).

i go to take one and get caught, i get punished. my brothers dont try for the punishment is now not a mere concept but an actual consiquence. its the same for like 90% of the shit we learn on a daily basis.

now of course being human theres always error to policies and enforcement as well as humans reactions. knowing that what happened will discourage a % of people from doing this means im all for it. say only 10 people were thinking about blowing up a plane or hijacking one before this incident. now say all 10 people saw this and 8 decided not to do it anymore. lets say the avg amount of passengers on a plane is 40. 8x40= 320 lives possibly saved. IMO 320 would be greater than the 1 initial example. now this is a controlled situation i set up, and the numbers are far lower than a real setup. even if 1 person changed their mind, 40 people is still greater than the 1 inital example.

just the way i see things, it all boils down to; do you think 1 life is worth losing to save more than 1? i do know one thing, id feel safer now knowing someone will enforce a policy rather than dick around with burocracy and what the media will think.

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I'm just considering the lawsuits "get rich quick" example against the airport, the federal government, and the airline he was flying on as well as the book and movie deals as well as the media painting him as a "victim" if he was merely wounded, this will be in the news for like maybe over a week, if he lived he'd be "celebrity" and would remain in the news for like several