So I went in and gave them a chance, I viewed the full hour and 30 minute video.

Yes, there were times I wanted to stop it and end it and be like "these people are nuts" but I continued on and viewed it in an attempt to see "their" view. To be honest, "their" view does raise a few legitimate questions. All it is, is a point and I wanted to see their side, I find it more dangerous to remain blind and ignorant to any oppsing point than to actually hear it out. Crazier subjects have been covered and, crazier theories have been correct, but how correct this particular theory is remains as yet, unseen. This is where you ask yourself if it is something you want to view, I personally took that step.

Some of the science used in this video is a bit too truthful, it will make you think, you aren't afraid of thinking are you?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ourceid=pw


However I am unsure what kind of "safe" judgement can be derived here. To the families, to those affected, I simply did not take this entire video as truth, (I refuse to even believe a lot of it at face-value) but I did however, give this video a chance to validate it's point which is more than a chance some of you may give in an attempt to find truth. I don't believe everything in it, but I do believe it raises some good questions, and I have left with a new, personal outlook on the subject. Maybe you will too, and discussion is always a good thing.

Better view it before it's deleted. <cue conspiracy music lol>

Theres a lot of strange things that went on before. I dont think it was done by the US, but I have a strong strong feeling that some people in the US knew it was going to happen any day and something big. The first 10 minutes to me made a lot of strange points. Its hard to know what to think. I cant exactly go around and fact check the stuff they say.


The Pentigon stuff is a little odd. Especially when they show the reporteres all talking about how it didnt look like a plane hit it (at the time of the accident)

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Yea Yarr exactly, but I think if this got into enough hands and controversy swelled on it then perhaps reputable sources will fact check it for us lol, although should we believe them <cue conspiracy music again> O.o?

I think the best points of the entire video was "The Pentagon" segment though, that part seemed the most concrete, do I believe it, I'm not sure anymore what to believe but I did find that particular segment's point pretty convincing.

Who told Canada they could have opinions? lol


Srsly tho, interesting video find, it really does kinda give you that "Hmmm" type of feeling that I KNOW will be rattling around in my head for a while.

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Yeah absolutly. I mean when I watched the sections for the Twin Towers it was like "ok, youre streching it" but with The Pentagon it was like.... what the hell, why did they need those security videos from the gas station and hotel? Why wont they just show a clear shot of the plane about to hit?

Seems pretty absurd that there are so many "strange" things related to that accident. The shock wave, the inconsistant witness reports (Although my sister is a police officer and she has some interesting stories about how multiple witnesses can see the same thing and not always give the same story) among other things. I mean it just didnt look like a plane hit it. I always had a hard time believing that a plane hit it though. I remember watching on september 11th and seeing the pentagon and I remember thinking that the pentagon must have been bombed (this was when we had no idea what was going on) I even remember seeing reporters going crazy because a few people said they saw a car explode near the building too.

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Yeah, theres alot that seems really far fetched about, not just this video, but ALOT of points of view or theories behind 9/11, but theres WAAAAY too many things that are just plain odd that surround all the events around 9/11, and all related "terrorist attacks".

I remember being in school when the attacks happened, it was during our homeroom period where we began by watching "Channel One News" a hokey
school news program that is shown every morning, when suddenly the TV's go off, and the announcer comes on and tells each teacher to put on the local news on the televisions due to a national emergency.

Homeroom wound up lasting an extra 35 minutes that day, due to watching the news after the crashes and watching all following reports... I remember seeing alot of students leaving early that day, and alot people upset because they had friends, family and things like that in NY at the time...One particular friend of mine even had an uncle who worked in the towers, but found out later that he was off on 9/11.

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We had a women in our Legal department who was in the North Building I think. She said it was horrible and the most frighting experiance ever, but at the time it was like "this isnt really happening" until she got out of the building and then realized what was going on.

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The data recorder stuff was interesting. The Data recorders didnt survive, but a pasport did? I find that hard to take.

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Alot of stuff struck me the same way. The same incidents where pieces of the planes that should have been present that were no where to be found kinda bring on the same feeling.

I definitely agree with alot that is being said through this video, but theres alot of it that I gotta disagree with because there are too many assumptions being made.

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yea, there were a few things that seemed a bit off regarding the towers.

- How the steel had burns resembling the temperature that it had on the bottom floors

- the collapse of the building footage, where you can plainly see what looks like small demolitions explosions coming from different little windows on the towers

- How bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the towers (are you serious, why would they do this?)

- how data was restored to hard drives that literally had evidence turned over to the FBI on tons of "insider trading" ad yet nothing was done

- the flight recorders missing

- how the smaller building collapsed (not the twin towers but a different building that held tons of insurance and other documents) and yet it would seem impossible for this to happen unless it was seperately bombed.

I mean the whole movie definitely provoked a lot of interesting and valid points that seemed to be left unexplained in entirety no matter which side you perceive this issue conspiracy or not.

my dad was in one of the two towers 4 days before it got hit, all the people in his company lived though

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ah hah!

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... ER_READING

let the debunking begin, I knew someone already did their homework, just had to find it.

rofl

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oh man this could fill up the rest of my day with reading Huzzah! I shall be bored no more!

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started reading @ 11... it is now 1 oclock, and have missed my lunch date w/ my girlfriend

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yes! i haven't read maddox in forever

This is really good

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

its a word for word transcript that basically shows how much he lies. Its a good read if you watched the video.

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Sigh.

Here's a site that debunks the theory, and here and here. Why not try this one or that bad boy or even this.

Not convinced? How about a few more just for laughs

where were you when we actually needed you Ponuh?

No kidding. We already posted links, youre about half a day late.

I personally didnt keep up on too much post 9/11 news. So I really didnt have a full picture of what happened. I still say that the passport flying out of the guys pocket and landing in the street is just a little too much for me. Im not saying that he wasnt involved, or that it was the US who did it, Im just saying that some of the things that surround the events of 9/11 are mysterious for security reasons.

I never watched the video and though "oh my god, its true, the US government is Evil! er More Evil." I just thought it rased quite a few questions. Once I read over the facts I no longer have any nagging questions about what happened. To me its very clear what happened on that day.

I just personally think that some US Officials had knowlage that SOMETHING like this was going to happen around the time of september 11th. Im talking about having more than a "hunch"

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Reformatting my computer

oh shit, I'll try to always be the first person to post in every thread, sorry.

And also, you're right. You haven't kept up at all because our Congress already launched a special committee on 9/11 and concluded our intelligence warned of a terrorist attack in August. So I guess your intuition is superb but if you were paying attention like everyone else you'd know it already.

Here, I'll look at it in a minute, but just from the comments so far...

It seems instead of things seeming like they were, in fact, conspirational...

That people found ways to connect them to the extraordinary to create a conspiracy.


Kinda like that game how everything in the world relates to Kevin Bacon.

Six Degrees to Kevin Bacon, damnit.

EDIT: That being said, if there really is conspiracy nonsense going down, it will most likely relate back or have to do with Kevin Bacon.

One time zelphes said conspiration while we were camping king arthro at friggin 6 am est. At which point I told him the word he was grasping for was conspiracy and that he was an asshole. He then unleashed the greatest single utterance of engrish the world has ever heard.

"well fk you, I am aint american"

While the word does exist, it is obsolete! huhhah!

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how come delete post option isn't available when you make a double post?