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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:26 am 
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i haven't forgotten that we discussed foreign opinion before, just thought it was interesting israel likes us. but seriously you can't honestly think the average foreigner is mad because "America fucked up my damn oil contract." in fact, the reasons they don't like us are: 1. We rush to war before exhausting our options. 2. We support Israel which is a total mistake to begin with. 3. We police the world. 4. We come out with tons of disrespect for other nations, take Freedom Fries for example, or repubs badmouthing French, Germans, Italians, Russians, etc. These aren't leftist spins. This is what we do. It's why people hate our guts and think we are the most racist nation in the world. Why do you think Mahmmoud asked me if I hate arabs? First we force thousands of families out of their homes in 1948, then we allow jews to takeover those homes, then we arm the jews, then we plant our fatass military in the arab holyland. Next we pretend like Iraq invading Kuwait is our business. And to top it off we murder 6000+ innocent mothers, children, uncles, etc. as a retaliation to 9/11 which they had nothing to do with. Honestly, if we Americans are going to sit on our asses in our country with our noses at a nice 45 degree angle and pretend it doesn't matter the rest of the world hates us, we are going to get attacked again. We can't let this happen

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I can't speak for all Canadians but...

My entire family at Thanksgiving was discussing the debates, and everyone disklike George Bush.

All my friends want Bush to lose.

People that I talk to at work (like customers because I'm very chatty) don't like Bush.

Both my politics classes critisize Americans and Bush.

I mean, its not hate. We are just very different from the U.S politically.


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1. We rush to war before exhausting our options.


We gave them an altimatum. They chose to lie to us and sneak around.

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2. We support Israel which is a total mistake to begin with.


Agree'd, but that all trails back to Britian's fault.

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3. We police the world.


After WW2 the world asked us to police them. That's why the UN is in NY.

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4. We come out with tons of disrespect for other nations, take Freedom Fries for example, or repubs badmouthing French, Germans, Italians, Russians, etc. These aren't leftist spins.


Everyone has hated the french since the 50s. They've hated us before and after that. And ONLY republicans talk bad about other countries? bullshit.

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The following quiz will supposedly show you where you are on the political spectrum. It's short.

http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:31 pm 
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if i could "Create-a-President," the pres would have the following opinions:

The War in Iraq: apologize for mistake, help rebuild but leave asap
Homeland security: use money that was previously spent for offensive military instead for defense measures, border control, airport security
Middle East: Stop supporting Israel asap
Gay rights: amend the const to prevent discrimination, allow gay marriage
Gun control: respect the right to bear arms
Drugs: legalize marijuana
Affirmative Action: give it another 8 years, then remove it
Healthcare: remain predominately private, but create a low cost healthcare option for the poor only as an employment benefit which you pay for yourself
Medicare: less taxpayer money to elderly healthcare
Social Security: gradual privatization
Electoral College: do away with, make a national poll
UN: cooperate more
North Korea, etc.: press the UN into initiating peace talks, if not, 1-on-1. if that doesn't work, press the UN into action. if not, 1-on-1. but let's have some more competent intelligence first this time plsthx
Abortion: the woman makes the decision. no taxpayer money goes toward abortion
Stem Cell research: embryonic cloning is fine
Teaching darwinism in public school: darwin: Yes. creation: No
Cuba: resume trade, remove sanctions
Business: promote small business, cease gifting big business
Environmentalism: pro-
Prayer in schools: no
Patriot Act: pro- FBI having access to library data and purchase info but against holding people prisoner for no reason and denying them rights
Economy: screw the trickle-down theory. it flopped. let's try the trickle-up theory! seriously though i'm no economist so if the president can just focus on creating jobs and closing the gap between rich and poor, i'd be happy
Separation of church & state: Remove the bible from the courtroom, remove god from the currency and pledge, and quit joking around with the moment of silence. people can pray anytime they want to, they don't need a group prayer time.
Death sentence: pro- but come on texas don't go "hog wild"
And to top it off, I'd make the president a woman. It's about damn time.

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haha yea
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Erase: to coverup my papertrail
Silence: for when the critics say anything bad about me
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The War in Iraq: apologize for mistake, help rebuild but leave asap


That solves nothing. Then we just get attacked again.

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Homeland security: use money that was previously spent for offensive military instead for defense measures, border control, airport security


How can you complain about it? Before Bush there was NONE. I can't believe we can criticize a president who is trying to protect us.

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Electoral College: do away with, make a national poll


Serves no purpose other than making any state with the most population the instant decider. This disrespects our constitution.

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Cuba: resume trade, remove sanctions


"Cave in, admit you were wrong for doing something just"

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Economy: screw the trickle-down theory. it flopped. let's try the trickle-up theory! seriously though i'm no economist so if the president can just focus on creating jobs and closing the gap between rich and poor, i'd be happy


Do drugs much? The economy is exactly where it was before Clinton's recession. This is after coming out of a recession, 9/11, and the crash of Enron and the powerhouse buisnesses and the insane job loss. Then he got back most of the jobs lost and we're back at the national average of unemployment.

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gee thanks for quoting all my opinions, why don't you just post your own ideas?

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Whisp are you quoting me in your sig?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:33 am 
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no..(?) i've been picking at mikey about dying like kenny from south park ever since the castle zvahl thing at lv 55 which was like january

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Just checking lol.

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Whisp wrote:
why don't you just post your own ideas?

by this, i don't mean that your ideas aren't your own, i just meant post some of your thoughts on create-a-president before you pick apart mine. i definitely enjoy discussing politics w/ ya

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I didn't choose to "create-a-president"

I will do it maybe, but I certainly don't have to in order to criticize.

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I'm not sure what social security is. Would that be the equivalent of the Canadian Pension Plan?


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It's a money pool that all tax payers pay into, and it goes into paying for retirement payments, and special cases(I recieve Social Security to keep me at a quality of life after my father passed away)

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2. We support Israel which is a total mistake to begin with.


If you ever read the bible, then its clear that whoever was to go against Israel will go to hell.


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where does it say that devrim?

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I think the Bible lead more to the conclusion that the Holy Land will always be in conflict.

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it says in a few places that god will protect the holy land and destroy those who oppose it.. I'll ask where it is though.

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Would that be the equivalent of the Canadian Pension Plan?


Yes, or the QPP if you live in Quebec.


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Dirty quebec'ers :x


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speaking of canada, does anyone know if 24 comes on TV up there? i want to see season 4 in january. it's on fox

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