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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:36 pm 
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Okay whm that used flash, did it and got hate alot. she spammed it as often as she could. Use banish or something if you wanna raise divine.

HAHAH Vurin ya you silly whm RERAISE! I dont feel safe without it on. But then again I am usually with Kayne...and we all know how often Kayne dies.

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Kyilen i was refering to that time in Onzozo with Ilm fighting cocks. I flash'd 2-3 times a fight and wasted mana on banishga 2 whenever ES was up ( 265 dmg woot~)


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Hmm, I never noticed anything wrong with whm using flash in exp party. Though the only one I ever knew to do it was Rrale. He was the best whm I've ever seen though...in a perma with him for nearly 20 levels I don't think he ever pulled hate off of Arura(pld) with it.

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944 - Players that sub underlevel subs. Not just 1 or 2 levels, but like 5-10+ levels! Stop being so lazy T_T

943 - RDM that sub War so they can skillchain with Vorpal Blade. ^^;

942 - Players that have like 10 lines of text in their marcos. For example,

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Sure it's funny the first time you see if but after 1-5hrs of seeing it you will go freakin insane! Please if you want to use cool sayings in your marcos please use /echo. Other players can't filter out your spam in a party T_T

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:08 pm 
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WHM using Flash in exp pt. because its quicker casting for divine magic.


I use Flash very often in EXP parties with a Paladin as a tank. The static I'm in had some issues with it when we first started, but after they realized I wasn't getting aggro, it was all good.

If a PLD and WHM stagger their flashes, it's twice as much time that the mob can't hit worth crap. Which means less MP spent casting Cure. :)

And as a fringe benefit, my Divine Magic is easy to cap. :wink:

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THF who has to wait for trick/sneak to pull. okay yes no clue how those works but could never get over a chain 3.


I do this...and still do this...unless it's past chain 3...

once you see chain 3, you can't wait for any cooldown, ever. People who PT with me know I can get Chain 5+ /shocked.

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No Vurin wasnt you i was talking about, and i do think i refered to the whm as a "she" :P so um...


Hehe with flash i dont mind it so much, but this whm got aggro alot from it. I never used it in exp pts just because well i would banish didnt want to use flash and get hate or something. and honestly i didnt banish often since my divine skill is like 100 and i am lvl 75 :P

As for THF with trick/sneak I dont mind them using it to pull. but when i have been with a thf that does it lower lvls of course, they never get past a chain three because of it. always waiting for it to be ready.

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/p I am pulling the wind out of my ass to Enchant my Sword!
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/p I will slay you with the fumes from my sword!


LMAO I think I am going to have to level RDM now just so I can use that as a macro and bug the crap out of people lol


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Kyilen wrote:
As for THF with trick/sneak I dont mind them using it to pull. but when i have been with a thf that does it lower lvls of course, they never get past a chain three because of it. always waiting for it to be ready.


Yeah, you need to know when to wait and when not to.

But hey, I'm a good thief. We can't all be Dinav 8)

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Reasons to use Flash: (if you don't, your party is really missing out)

I think this is an excellent thread for WHM's of all levels: (especially the section about Flash usage)
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showth ... adid=43666

This one just more about Flash as a whm
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showth ... adid=45244

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Never used flash in my exp pts and i never will :) I dont need nor want that extra hate. Its a personal choice :)

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Correct me if I'm wrong but flash only assures the mob will miss once. Not worth it for a whm.

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WHM's get an A+ in divine magic. the key to making flash good is actually having the skill capped, lol

my flashes last up to 8-9 seconds on exp mobs, which is usually much longer than pld's flashes. whms get enmity- gear, so hate shouldnt be an issue at all. with ninja tanks we should probly take it easy on the flashing though.

now, if your party is owning mobs with Elegy + Slow, the mob will probly attack 1-2 times max even over 8 seconds.

would like to hear some pld's opinions on this issue.

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Take a thief, no hate issue <.<

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Does Ballista party count? cause in my last ballista match the person on the opposing team kept using diaga to remove shadows, followed by the RDM's sleepga. :roll: needless to say, my team never slept heh

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I don't use flash really in exp parties. If I'm with a ninja, most of the time they land Kurayami, so I don't want to erase it and shorten the blind time.

However, if it's a decent party with a solid light skillchain I never hesitate to burst Holy or Banishga II. Too bad my divine magic is like 50 points from cap still. :(

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Whisp flashc an cause a mob to miss 2-3 times for 25 mp, when a mob is hitting for 80-150+ a pop its mana efficent to do so.

Although whoever mentioned Kurayami and blind also has a point.


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Thread has been hijacked for use of whm usuing flash discussion :lol:

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-when there's another whm in the party
-when there's a paladin and a ninja in the party along with two white mages..
-when someone is 60+ rank 2... and that's their actual rank....they didnt switch nations.
-Stupid linkshells..i.e... hokutenkaidojo...b/c that's soooooo original..
-when newbs ask for money
-ninjas who only use utsusemi: ichi and utsusemi: ni.. b/c they can't hold hate.. It;s great that they can't get hit.. But.. the mob isnt even trying to hit them.. it's hitting everyone else.. and me.. i could give you examples of people.. but that's just mean..
-mithra who use "meow" or "mew" in their macros..
- /em macros
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k here's my list-

RDM/NIN for XP

BLM/SMN

People who hit on you in XP pt.

People who play high or drunk(in particular tanks)

DRKs who are afraid to use their JAs

Lazy ass RDM

WHM who bitch when RDM convert without warning. :wink:

BRD/THF

Conversaton as follows-
Me: You have a provoke macro right?
Whoever: Naw I don't need macros bitch
Me: Er... ok can you provoke when you lose hate or every 30 seconds?
Whoever: Don't tell me how to do my job asshole. I know what the fuck I'm doing. (This actually happened in the dunes heh)

Unannounced AFKs

Thieves who pull without paying attention.

WHM who don't use regen

People who have shout text in their macros....

And like 75765765 more things I can think of but it's 4 AM...Good night.


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