At school, computers have this program called Deep Freeze, I know I've talked about it before in a past thread, but anywho. I figured out how to get into the control panel and disable it, but I need a password. I've tried stupid things like my town's name, teacher, the acronyms for my school's name, all kinds of things, but it won't work. So, does anyone have any ideas on what it could be?

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try "GOD"

Nerd do this for some reason

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try looking for a file called pass.txt or password.txt on your teachers computer or the admins computer if you get a chance to get on their comp. could also try 111111 or any combination of that, all zeros sometimes works too.

Why are you so concerned about access to the program, can't you just bypass the program? Anything run in windows inheriently can be bypassed with the correct process.

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Warlock's are not OP, maybe if you stopped running around like frightened little girls you'd be able to beat me...

deep freeze is a program that completely whipes your harddrive clean after each reboot. it will always reset the computer to default settings. this goes back to tracer'z other thread because he didn't want to have to reinstall FFXI everytime hes in class.

As for passwords, you could try and ask your teacher a question where he needs to login to his/her computer from, and hope that he isnt already logged in and try and watch his keystrokes

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lol if you can't get what Gavin said.. might be able to find a keylogger like Guardian Monitor (one we use at work to watch what employees do). That would obviously record what the teacher typed.. but you would have to have it installed and hidden (you can totally hide the program) for him to not know you are recording his keystrokes. Then you could open the program later and see what the password he typed was. That or watch his keystrokes with your eyes haha. But yeah Deep Freeze would get rid of any keylogger/spyware you installed to gank your teacher's passwords. Don't D/L Guardian Monitor since it costs money, I am sure there are free alternatives that do not do all the shit it does (video, chat, email, keylogger etc lol). Just need something that will take his keystrokes and put them in a simple text file. Something like this could get you into trouble if you got caught though so GL lol.

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I'm pretty sure these machines are going to be locked down. Installing software (that would apply to all users, anyway) would be near impossible. It's also not possible to completely hide programs from the Windows XP Task Manager, only Windows 95/98/ME.

Hacking 101...

What you need to do is get ahold of a program called Cain and Abel. This allows you to use a computer's local cache to obtain a "Kerberos Hash" for the local administrator account, which is effectively the password after a one-way encryption. You can then take this home, and use the same program to "Brute Force" attack the hash. That way you don't need to be sitting at school/work (where you could get caught) to do it.

After a couple of hours (could take like up to 12 hours or even days running non-stop, depending how complex you think the password might be) the program will find a password that matches the Kerberos Hash.

Then you can use the password to log into the machine locally. You wont be able to connect to the network, so you won't be able to access anything other than resources located on the local machine. However you'll have full access to the hard drive, control panel, etc, etc.

Can you be caught doing this? You can, but it depends on the sophistication of any monitoring software present. Where I work the monitoring system (I wrote it, hoho) would easily record it was done. You could disable the monitoring system by having local access to the machine, but by then you've already been tracked and recorded onto a server.

The machine could also be restored to how it was before you screwed it up in only an hour or two too, just by plugging a special "rebuild" flash stick into the machine when it boots up, easily reversing anything you did. Also depending on how the computer is set up, Group Policy could reset any Windows settings you change as soon as someone logs back in. So you can't really do a whole lot with this, but hey, this is only 101, rememeber?

There's certain things you can't do when Deep Freeze is up, and the reason I want to access it, is so I can disable it. I read like 5 manuals on google on how to do it, but it all requires the password. But basically they all say once I get the password, there's litteraly an option to turn deep freeze off.



The teachers don't have Deep Freeze on their computers, and I can't think of any reason I'd have to ask the teacher to unlock it temporarily on my computer.



1) If I installed it to the teachers computer, not going to do much, since they don't have deep freeze on their PCs.

2) If I installed a keylogger on my PC at school (I have one that's free) deep freeze would just erase it the second the pc was turned off.

And Ket, I'll try your idea tomorrow in computer class. Thanks for not flaming me guys, lol.

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Yeah the keylogger we have here.. sends the boss an email with the log and everything the person did at the PC that day... sends it before the PC is shut off. Yeah the PC might be locked down, but it sounded like with Deep Freeze you can install stuff and it just resets the PC to its original config. We had something similar to Deep Freeze at the college we go to. Driveshield I believe it was. Anyway the keylogger would be no good if it can't email the PW to you anyway... due to the log being wiped if it was not sent to you by Deep Freeze. Of course there is risk involved but you do not need the teacher to be at the PC for very long to get your log and have it automatically sent to your hotmail or whatever. Would be fine as long as he does not check the running processes lol.

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Sounds like deep freeze is a program that deletes profiles. Im going look it up.

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Sounds more like software that uses Ghost-style backup images to keeps overwriting everything on the PC each day.

Considering I work with them a lot, I'd imagine that software would be an absolute nightmare to manage on an Active Directory / Group Policy based network.

Group Policy and Policy Software Installation on an AD network domain using MSI's is a god send. Can install all the windows updates automatically, and change settings for every machine at once just by editing the policy on the server. Installing software is as easy as installing the MSI for it onto the server and it'll get pushed down onto all the workstations at reboot.

I'd never go back to the days where we just had a bunch of computers that were backed up with a Ghost image, which is what that reminds me of, lol.

this thread is cool

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Hey ket, tell me how to hack into my teacher's home computer from her website

the bitch went on maternity leave and left us 5 units to do it 3 weeks, plus a final website to make.

...That link makes it sound like it's impossible to get through deep freeze. I just need some more motivation and I can do this. Btw Ket, do you have Brute Force? I don't trust downloading things like that from google since I got a keylogger off something similar once.

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Have you thought about what will happen if (altho really I mean "when") you get caught trying to disable the security systems and install a game on your school's network?

Ever think they have Deep Freeze there for more than just to inconvenience you? So your goal might not be particularly malicious but if you manage to disable / go around it, it's only a matter of time before someone else does too and fucks up your network.

Yea the teachers in the room might not even notice whats going on but behind the scenes somebody will, if you tried to pull a trick like that at my old school you would likely have been expelled and even face criminal charges, especially if it led to some malicious software entering the systems and messing up 2000+ peoples data.

Why not put all this time and effort into something useful, i dunno...learn a new computer programming language or something.

Don't mean to come across as flaming you or saying you're an idiot for wanting to do this, because there was a time when I might have wanted to do the same, however ....is it really worth it?

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Well, they claim they have this "Light" that goes off in the office when you try to download ANYTHING on their computers, but I couldn't tell you how much shit I've downloaded and have never gotten cought. Using a proxy to download things probably has something to do with it though. And if I do get cought, I highly doubt I'll get slapped with criminal charges.

Oh, and I gave up on FFXI :/ ever since that Arab chick stole my PC that I was using to install FFXI on. I just want to disable Deep Freeze so I can download some online games and AIM.



Nah. If someone could have figured out how to bypass it, they would have done it by now. It's the end of the year; everyone is too busy being supersticious (sp?) about 6-6-06. So nobody is trying to get through the school's security. And let's just assume, I got through it, and so did someone else, but they didn't find that other guy, and he corrputed the network. They'd blame me. And I would demand proof. Hell, even if I fucked with the network, you can't really prove I did it.



I'm sure someone will notice, but the chances of them finding me are slim to none.



Computer Programming Language. Ewwww. I haven't tried doing that since before FFXI; back when I thought you could press a button and blow up somebody's OS. But really, if you have any good ideas on what I could do in my spare time, please tell me. It would help me out in more than one way if I found something to waste my time on besides FFXI. Plus, I have a 3hr Friday School to serve today, and nothing to do in it.



Even if you were flaming me, I'm done being a jackass. It got boring. And you know, it isn't worth it. But boredom is something that really pisses me off. And just having the satisfaction of having something simple like AIM on my PC would be wonderful. Hell, I have the installation program downloaded, but when it tries to install, it says I don't have administrative rights, and to log on to an administrator account before trying to install it.

And btw, Ket, I tried downloading Cain and Abel today, but my proxy was being gay and won't let me download it, so I'll put it on a CD and install it on Monday.

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Our school blocked just about every proxy server the kids here could find.

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trace use aim express. Its doesn't even install look it up on google.

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The mikey's have a plan. Djay isn't all powerful.

I know a girl here who taught herself computer programming at like the age of 15, she knew 6 six languages by the time she was ready to apply for university and got a scholarship to do computer game programming and 3d design.

She said it was boring to start with, but now she is probably one of the only people I know who actually enjoys her degree course lol

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Knowing programming languages has been a god send for me. I started with a commodore 64 at the age of 7 to start my tour to nerdiness. Learned Turbo Pascal, Basic, C, C++, Apache, Java, ASP, and a bunch of other scripting stuff for the web also along the way. Its not hard to learn that stuff, just gotta not be afrid to make the mistakes you will undoubtly make when learning to use it. People see it on a resume and they instantly think you know everything about computers and can fix all their computers problems for their business.

Incidently Ket, how long have you been using 3d studio? I got my first "legally questionable" copy when I was in highschool and it was like the coolest shit ever. I think it was version 2? I tried maya and wasn't too found of it, haven't taken the chance to try out bryce, they say bryce is good for landscapes... whats your take?

Hey also does anyone know a link for a xp pro iso that works with service pack 2's validation? Having a bitch of a time finding one that specifcally says it does.

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Warlock's are not OP, maybe if you stopped running around like frightened little girls you'd be able to beat me...

i dont know about you guys, but i love gettin anally raped on a biyearly cycle. nothin else puts a smile on my face anymore

i like electrical engineering, but geez, i want someone to shoot me now

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rofl you talking about exams? I know exactly how you feel there lolol.

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https://www.proxyweb.net try it, I'm almost sure it will work. But, the url HAS to have the S in the http or it won't work.



I'll try that on Monday, thanks.



Yeah, I know a little bit of html, but who doesn't? Not like it's hard to learn. And it's definitely a plus that she enjoys her degree.



Oh god... the memories. I tried to jam a bunch of shit like that into my head when I was a script kiddy using keyloggers and shit. The only thing I managed to do was piss myself off because I couldn't stand it. I never want to work with C++ ever again

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i feel demasculated, i like programming in C++ .....

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Warlock's are not OP, maybe if you stopped running around like frightened little girls you'd be able to beat me...

Ugh, I hated C++ and would probably still hate it if I tried to learn it again.

Btw, Mikey. Tried using AIM express, and it just takes me to a page full of a shitload of links, and says something like: "Oops, You might be typing too fast, We're not able to locate the page that you requested." On the pc in the friday school room atm.

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