lol internet

I feel like I'm playing a game of "Questions Only" here. Look, reiterating what someone else says and then constantly putting it down for while no one else agrees with you just proves to be a ridiculous, pointless debate. Fine, Kaylia doesn't understand why this issue is important to our earth. That's okay...but seriously...is it worth going on for 4 pages simply "arguing for the sake of arguing"? Thank you for trying to be a devil's advocate, but I don't think so.

Oh, and bias as boyfriend/girlfriend has nothing to do with it, thank you very much. I don't think that comment has any validity and shouldn't have been said.

And you, are sure you understand the importance? The only argument you brough in that thread was that it would be cool for aliens from another planet (or another sentient species), to have a complete list of every living species on our planet if we blow up or something.
The other argument you mentioned was the possibility of finding new cure for diseases, but that alone indicate you don't know much about the way they make medicine. Most of the of the new molecules used for medecine are made in laboratory based on previous data instead of a lucky find on a random animal. It's true there is still interesting bacteries and proteins out there, but it's not like we studied more than a fraction of the global population. Even if we get a few more species to add to our database, it means pratically nothing on the big picture.

And do you really think I'm putting other people down? You should try rereading your posts or Yarr's posts. If you think I'm the only one doing it, you're terribly wrong.

I dunno why you think I'm playing the devil advocate just because I'm not defending science like someone would defend a religion. This discovery is simply an observation, without any analysis, result or anything following it. The media make it sound big, but it has very little impact, if any, on the developpement of other science. Biology already passed that point, and those new species will just reconfirm what we already knew.
Like I said earlier, it's like rediscovering Newton's physics, when you have relativity, quantum physics and string physics.




It does in a way. A group of people who agree together will rarely try to see the situation from a different point of view. Why would you rethink your position when you agree with people close to you? Why would anyone try to change his opinion after being praised on his intelligence?

You didn't play FFXI, but just take a fight between two Linkshell. People will almost always agree and defend their close friend, even when they are in the wrong. Now, I'm not saying you two would have a different opinion, but the fact you're together pratically kill any chance you try to see the situation from a different angle.

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jesus christ kaylia...

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I fell for the multiple post trick on the last page @.@ damn it

kaylia,
take GFP for instance. it means Green Fluorescent Protein. and it was discovered to be coded in certain jellyfish DNA. it's not something scientists in a lab are likely to come up with. what it does is when struck with blue light, it emits green light. and what scientists use it for is they can fuse the coding for GFP with the coding for whatever protein they feel like tracking and it attaches at the end of the protein and acts like a tagging/tracking device. new organisms provide new discoveries such as this that are so important to science. so even though the categorization of all living species is, by itself, a worthwhile endeavor, this gives us yet another reason to pursue such knowledge.

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I know that Whisp, I know there is still new protein that can be found on there. However, the fauna in that place appears to be pretty much normal. The reason we discovered GFP was because of the fluorescent particularity of certain jellyfish, which picked the curiosity of certain researcher for not being observed.

While the new species weren't categorized, none possess what we could call a new trait. The most interesting could be the egg laying mammal, but it was still observed a few time before. There is always a chance we discover a new proteins on any species, but I don't see why it would be higher on them than any of the other millions of species (including unicellular).

Whisp, if you had take a guess at the probability of finding a new protein there, how high would you estimate it to be?

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new protein 100% but it being of use to humans probably 0.001%
still worth looking

plus the researchers didnt know what all theyd find before they actually went (exploration), and it wasn't much of a time/finance/safety risk of going, so going is worth it. if they dont come out of it with a new medicine, pet, protein/enzyme, social structure, symbiosis, etc., they still come out of it with new species and a story that piques the imagination of readers and sparks creativity and discussion.

anyway im done with trying to argue the importance of science, for now. it was an interesting post yarr.

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What do you think is the percent of protein we extracted from known species? There is still thousand of specimens outside that were never tested.
It still worth looking, but you could say the same about every other species (and you know as well as me there is a lot). I really can't figure what's so special about them that make them more worthwhile then anything else.

Beside, in recent year, science made a lot of progress to understand the structure and interaction between proteins and other molecule. Progress will mostly be made in laboratory making artificial protein, instead of a lucky find in the nature.



That's my whole point. This discovery interest creativity and imagination way more than science.





We arent arguing about the importance of science. It's obviously very important.

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