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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:47 pm 
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I'm bored so I'm gonna make some big long philosophical post, this is something I've been thinking a lot about and I'm wondering what you guys think about the subject because it'd be useful to me to get some other opinions about it.

Ok, so, I'm looking at my life... I'm going to be 27 in exactly 40days. I have a fulltime job, I make decent salary, have benefits etc. I own and operate my own vehicle it's a 2004 mazda 3s bought brand new with like 25miles on it and I'm only a few thousand bucks away from paying it completely off. I take care of my disbabled mom who lives with me, I pay rent, gas, electric, phone, cell phone, car insurance, water, credit card, oil, and cable bills on the 15th of every month, and I always wonder how it gets to be the 15th again so quick. There's about 5 or 6 women I'm seeing at the moment that could either flourish into something serious or coast out into nothing, though between us, I'm not really interested in pursuing anything serious with any of them.

Now with that said, I feel there is another aspect of myself that pulls me towards acting and engaging in the same types of behavior and events that I would've as a teenager in highschool. These include but are not limited to: playing ffxi and other games like it's a second job, flaming ppl on messageboards about these games, having long hair and/or facial hair, drawing, writing, graffiti, playing drums, guitar, bass, singing, dancing, pining over maio, hardcore/punkrock, collecting: dvds, records, cds, comics, bootlegs, drinking heavily, smoking, watching movies marketted towards teenagers and enjoying them, ranting, pursuing philosophical conversations with ppl, etc.

Now... My dilema is this. I find myself pursuing and being attracted to women who're interested in the same things I am. Granted with everything else going on in my life between the adult me and the kid me, one of the main motivators to keep pursuing ventures in both directions is to be more interesting and successful. The idea is that eventually I'll meet a way cool chick like me and we'll settle into some nice white collar suburban bullshit mediocrity happy ending... you know, the american dream.

However, I'm finding that there's a lot less women around who you can fucking pound a 40 with while watching chappelle's show and laugh your asses off, then get on the drums or guitar and write some awesome song together, then meal out on some taco bell and finally finish off the night by drawing/writing together, or maybe you know seperating for a bit to play video games or read or watch a movie or something until getting sleepy, rocking eachother's world sexually and passing out at 4am to get up at 7am for work the next day and do the whole thing all over again.

No, the majority of women I meet are boring, faux sophisticated, workaholics with no hobbies or interests except for making sure they're planted in front of their tv screen at 9pm every tuesday so they don't miss this week's episode of amazing race. Their idea of going out to have a good time is brunch at the cheesecake factory, going clothes shopping, and then watching the sisterhood of the traveling pants while dowing a gallon of chunky munky and blaming it on their hormones. Now, this may sound completely chauvinistic, perhaps a bit misogynistic, and definitely pathetic/ignorant, but whenever I meet and start seeing a woman like this about the only redeeming quality to me about her is her vagina.

But hanging on to the chick(s) that I do have fun with and who're into the same things I am seems to provide unsattisfactory results in the romance dept. So, I'm wondering... when is it time to grow up? Should I put away my childish hobbies and tendencies? Replace ffxi with shopping trips to off the fifth, and my tickets to go see nakatomi plaza for tickets to les miserables. Or do I embrace these things knowing they're a big part of who am I and how I became to be who I am, and continue to wait for that 1 out of 12873821738927 girls who is actually cool and just maybe wants to be with me too, while feeling like I'm not getting any younger, and dare I say it, almost starting to feel uncool about the things I used to think were so cool, as if I'm some washed up old man trying to clutch at the straws of my youth and just looking pathetic.

I realize that I can only be me and do what makes me happy and hope this one of those things you can't really plan or have any control over, however, I know that I can be making decisions to pursue a more serious grown-up lifetsyle, just not sure if that's what I want. So what about you guys? How do you feel about your life and responsibilities, did you miss the boat? are you waiting for it? Did you go the serious route and are unhappy, are you still just having fun and enjoying yourself?

Any and all input regarding the matter is welcomed and appreciated.. thanks for taking the time to read.

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Depends on your definition of childish.

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i gave a bunch of examples of what I consider childish lol.. you didn't botehr reading it did you? /sigh
btw I think part of the reason why I'm so bored and hyper is because i actually ate something for the first time in 2 days

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Fine. I'll answer differently.

I don't consider your examples childish. Nor do I consider your other examples adult behavior. But this is just my opinion.

So I'll say it again.


It depends on what you consider to be childish. If you feel that those things are childish and you want to "grow up". Then do so. If not then continue to be "childish" if that is what makes you feel good.

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You shouldn't want to change for other people. I'd just wait it out for that one girl that you're bound to meet eventually. Sooner or later if you happened to start doing things differently for some girl or whatever, and you convince yourself that this is what you want, you might realize that it wasn't. I know I can't really say much about this since I'm not legally an adult yet, so take it for what you will, but most of all you should just do what makes you happy. Besides cutting girls up with chainsaws, that is.

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well I wouldn't really consider it growing up for a girl.. just more that pressure from society to be like some straight laced tightass like my parents were when I was a kid (and the age I am now) lol

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Don't ever change for a girl. It not what a girl wants from you, and its not what you truly want from a girl. I spent 15-24 always having tons of g/f, whenever we broke up, I'd find another one. thinking about it now, I don't know why I was so obsessed with always having someone, but regardless, I've said "I love you" alot of fuckin times, and for most of them I sort of still do.

That said, only a few of them were the girls who "matched" me, anime or game freaks. In fact the one girl who I think was the best girl I ever met, who I spent 4 of those years with, and never fealt like breaking up with until the end, hated video games, and thought anime was garbage. But we clicked on other levels of our relationship. I still love her to this day, she even had a daughter and I still feel like her daughter was mine too. That said, she hated everything I was into, but I didn't hide what I was into. She tried, but just wasn't intrested in it. I tried liking her stuff, but wasn't intrested in it either, I mean I can't watch freakin VH1 girlie shit all the time.

She gave me my space and I gave her her space, and then we had our own space together. Thats the sort of relationship you really want to have with a girl, finding someone who is totally like you doesn't make the relationship good. You just have to find someone who accepts you are you, and they are themself, and that together you are a couple.

Like Dmitry said, your concept of "growing up" is change. Changing for someone to like you better is not the key to a good relationship. Tons of fish in the sea, you gotta go through alot of them before you meet a good one, otherwise you end up a statistic like the rest of the divorces.

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I know you always value my opinion (right!)
so here it is.
it doesn't fucking matter if you find the "right" girl. infact, it is probably best that you don't. because men fuck everything up. anything beautiful they kill. men don't want to be happy, ever. happy isn't good enough.
and they make nice awesome girls from the moon like me and the few girls who have no problems giving the biggest fucking loser on the face of the earth a chance turn jaded and mean.
so fuck yall.
i'm tired of all this whining about not finding the "right" woman and how all women are like x and y and they like guys who are like x and y. when the truth is that underneath the skin of every guy is a jerk.
the end.


p.s. sorry, having problems myself (obliviously).

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 Post subject: Re: when is it time to grow up?
PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:23 pm 
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Just have fun...you'll get over some of those "childish" things eventually, have fun with them while you can.


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Mintsy wrote:
I know you always value my opinion (right!)
so here it is.
it doesn't fucking matter if you find the "right" girl. infact, it is probably best that you don't. because men fuck everything up. anything beautiful they kill. men don't want to be happy, ever. happy isn't good enough.
and they make nice awesome girls from the moon like me and the few girls who have no problems giving the biggest fucking loser on the face of the earth a chance turn jaded and mean.
so fuck yall.
i'm tired of all this whining about not finding the "right" woman and how all women are like x and y and they like guys who are like x and y. when the truth is that underneath the skin of every guy is a jerk.
the end.


p.s. sorry, having problems myself (obliviously).


She's right kupos...99% of men are horrible -_-

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Well.. im in high school.. but i hardly play ffxi anymore. It's so retarded now.. i cant explain. I did almost everything i wanted to in the game, and blah blah. I used to play in Middle school a lot, i didnt really have too many friends. When i got into high school everythng changed. I completly droped ffxi and put it behind me. Its a loser game, if i told my friends i used ot play it they would prolly make fun of me for the rest of my life.. lol. So anyways, my hobbies now consist of just goin out having a good time, do whatever i want, but i hardly ever spend time by myself. I just call up a few people, and we smoke a few cigs, go get something to eat, go run around a few stores, and the end of the day ends up smokin weed or drinkin. Just go out, go with the flow, fuck ffxi. Basically, i changed from a ffxi nerd to a fuckin mad party animal.. and if i had to go back to middle school, i would be what i am today.. i have fun, i enjoy my life. The end. oh and if this didnt make any sense tell me.. lol i just sorta ranted on without thinking


haha thats baisically like saying i traded the privacy of being a loser in my own home, to being a loser in public


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lol a few of somehow managed to find a way to attack each other in this thread... very odd. Go watch some anime and feel better about yourselves before you post in here.

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Well.. im in high school.. but i hardly play ffxi anymore. It's so retarded now.. i cant explain. I did almost everything i wanted to in the game, and blah blah. I used to play in Middle school a lot, i didnt really have too many friends. When i got into high school everythng changed. I completly droped ffxi and put it behind me. Its a loser game, if i told my friends i used ot play it they would prolly make fun of me for the rest of my life.. lol. So anyways, my hobbies now consist of just goin out having a good time, do whatever i want, but i hardly ever spend time by myself. I just call up a few people, and we smoke a few cigs, go get something to eat, go run around a few stores, and the end of the day ends up smokin weed or drinkin. Just go out, go with the flow, fuck ffxi. Basically, i changed from a ffxi nerd to a fuckin mad party animal.. and if i had to go back to middle school, i would be what i am today.. i have fun, i enjoy my life. The end. oh and if this didnt make any sense tell me.. lol i just sorta ranted on without thinking


I can really see the benefits of your lifestyle in this post. You real, you bad.


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i don't understand why i can't stop laughing at this one line.

I don't understand why. Tomake isn't a jerk. isn't why am i laughing

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mikey are you really that dude in the 1200 pound man thread???

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mikey are you really that dude in the 1200 pound man thread???


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No yarr's just a fag. He's lucky i show him respect lol. Otherwise he'd be like every fucker that messes with me.

And no that fat fucker isn't me..

I'm not mexican nor am i that huge. he's 1200 pounds. Within reason i think i'm lighter than is left leg. Not that nut sack mess between his legs

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because men fuck everything up. anything beautiful they kill. men don't want to be happy, ever. happy isn't good enough.


Most women make terrible choises in their first companships, they get fucked over, and then they take out their aggression on the next, possibly good guy, that comes along; ruining him. Its a viscious cycle. They're some really terrible, frat-boy asshole guys and I have no idea why girls date them, but then again I play MMOs, D&D, and like networking and desinging web pages. I was fucked over by a girl. We're still good friends, but she went on an emotional rollercoaster and shes probably doing the same to another friend of mine right now, but I'm not going to say a word because its not my place to do so. Goes the same for a roomate of mine who started dating one of the only girls I love a year ago when she got drunk and kept asking me to see him. They're happily in a relationship right now. Like my friend tells me though, fortune favors the bold, but I just wish I had spoken up sooner and not gotten fucked over by the emotional conundrum that is a depressed teenage girl.

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Most women make terrible choises in their first companships, they get fucked over, and then they take out their aggression on the next, possibly good guy, that comes along; ruining him. Its a viscious cycle. They're some really terrible, frat-boy asshole guys and I have no idea why girls date them, but then again I play MMOs, D&D, and like networking and desinging web pages. I was fucked over by a girl. We're still good friends, but she went on an emotional rollercoaster and shes probably doing the same to another friend of mine right now, but I'm not going to say a word because its not my place to do so. Goes the same for a roomate of mine who started dating one of the only girls I love a year ago when she got drunk and kept asking me to see him. They're happily in a relationship right now. Like my friend tells me though, fortune favors the bold, but I just wish I had spoken up sooner and not gotten fucked over by the emotional conundrum that is a depressed teenage girl.

Women are the only one thing that can break men's hearts. Thus making them evil beings, but I couldn't live without them.


This comment comes at the cost of many females on this board hating me if they don't already. I agree with Cad, girls are the only reason I have ever seen a sterotypical nice guy become an asshole. So next time you sit and bitch about all guys treating you like shit, take a look at your female friends, and if they are at least over 21, you can guarantee at some point in their life they truly and utterly broke some poor guys heart when they were younger, and you can guarantee that guy most likely became the type of guy who is making some "poor" girl cry about how all guys are bad.

I stopped trying a long time ago :) like most guys around my age start doing too. Female are too much trouble to try and impress and be nice to anymore. You can take care of yourselves. Sad thing is, the less I try to be nice, the more memory slots I use in my celly. That speaks freakin novels for the female train of thought.

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Don't get me wrong, they're alot of good kids out there, but people just make terrible descions for lord knows what reason.

I probably won't find what I'm looking for til' I'm older, but I don't 'give up.' If my old roomate every broke my (possible) future lover's heart then it wouldn't take me 24 hours to jump on him... and then her, haha.

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I play FFXI and I still go out and party every once in a while. Why don't I go out every night? Because party's are fucking lame haha. I mean lately I haven't played FFXI much, but when I go out I hang out with people that I'm actually gonna have relationships with, friends, girls, whatever. Parties are just the same fucking small-talk everytime, everyone gets stupid drunk and someone does something retarded and everyone laughs blah-blah-blah, it's boring.

If I went out everynight and got smashed or smoked a bunch of weed I'd feel like the most worthless being on the planet. It's a friday night and I just worked 5 hours and made $150, now I'm gonna go over to a buddies place and watch Band of Brothers with a bunch of awesome people that I don't know very well, and maybe I'll get to know them better (from what I know of them, they're awesome) :)

The 2 guys from Penny-Arcade are as much grown-ups as anyone else as far as I'm concerned. They both have careers, one or both of them has a wife and a new family, they pay taxes, they help fundraises, they throw huge conventions for kids and adults all over the country. They also play a lot of video games and enjoy stupid teenage movies. Who gives a shit? Personally I'm just not attracted to girls who like video games haha, so I put all that aside when I'm looking for a girl. I'm a decent looking guy with a fun personality, so I can get hotter chicks, and so that's what I strive for. Like someone said before, just because I like video games, and they don't doesn't mean we won't get along, you can connect on a lot of different levels.


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Most women make terrible choises in their first companships, they get fucked over, and then they take out their aggression on the next, possibly good guy, that comes along; ruining him. Its a viscious cycle. They're some really terrible, frat-boy asshole guys and I have no idea why girls date them, but then again I play MMOs, D&D, and like networking and desinging web pages. I was fucked over by a girl. We're still good friends, but she went on an emotional rollercoaster and shes probably doing the same to another friend of mine right now, but I'm not going to say a word because its not my place to do so. Goes the same for a roomate of mine who started dating one of the only girls I love a year ago when she got drunk and kept asking me to see him. They're happily in a relationship right now. Like my friend tells me though, fortune favors the bold, but I just wish I had spoken up sooner and not gotten fucked over by the emotional conundrum that is a depressed teenage girl.

Women are the only one thing that can break men's hearts. Thus making them evil beings, but I couldn't live without them.


These posts just seem so out of character for Caduceus. He's usually more reserved.




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because men fuck everything up. anything beautiful they kill. men don't want to be happy, ever. happy isn't good enough.


Most women make terrible choises in their first companships, they get fucked over, and then they take out their aggression on the next, possibly good guy, that comes along; ruining him. Its a viscious cycle. They're some really terrible, frat-boy asshole guys and I have no idea why girls date them, but then again I play MMOs, D&D, and like networking and desinging web pages. I was fucked over by a girl. We're still good friends, but she went on an emotional rollercoaster and shes probably doing the same to another friend of mine right now, but I'm not going to say a word because its not my place to do so. Goes the same for a roomate of mine who started dating one of the only girls I love a year ago when she got drunk and kept asking me to see him. They're happily in a relationship right now. Like my friend tells me though, fortune favors the bold, but I just wish I had spoken up sooner and not gotten fucked over by the emotional conundrum that is a depressed teenage girl.

Women are the only one thing that can break men's hearts. Thus making them evil beings, but I couldn't live without them.


This comment comes at the cost of many females on this board hating me if they don't already. I agree with Cad, girls are the only reason I have ever seen a sterotypical nice guy become an asshole. So next time you sit and bitch about all guys treating you like shit, take a look at your female friends, and if they are at least over 21, you can guarantee at some point in their life they truly and utterly broke some poor guys heart when they were younger, and you can guarantee that guy most likely became the type of guy who is making some "poor" girl cry about how all guys are bad.

I stopped trying a long time ago :) like most guys around my age start doing too. Female are too much trouble to try and impress and be nice to anymore. You can take care of yourselves. Sad thing is, the less I try to be nice, the more memory slots I use in my celly. That speaks freakin novels for the female train of thought.


I only date "nice" guys. I only date "nerds". I can't deal with assholes.
I'm saying that there is no such thing as a "nice" guy, just like your saying that there is no such thing as a sensible woman who can make good choices about companionship. However, I personally know that one of those statements is wrong. However, I am also a de-citizen of the moon and cannot speak for all earth women.
The 'stereotypical nice guy' has broken my heart every single time.
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