http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6006 ... P&GT1=8595

Terrell Owens apparently had an overdose on the pain medicine when used together with his workout supplements. Some people said it looks like suicide attempt and others say it was just an accidental/unforeseen reaction between his medicine and supplements, Bill Parcells says the pain killers make TO sick on their own.

It's hard to tell sometimes what's up with TO. His flashy behavior could just be a cover if he actually has depression. I do remember one interview where he cried over some damn random thing. How often when someone kills themselves do you hear:
"He always seemed like such a positive guy, we'd never expected something like this from him."

Say it ain't so TO?

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I am not surprised at all. T.O. has always seemed like a rather unhappy person to me, and this is just a recent example. His previous behavior shows how unhappy he really is.

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This dude is batshit insane!

This is just the fucking media being the fucking media. If you belive this shit then you deserve to be shot.

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edit: he just admitted he told police he tried to commit suicide but that he was groggy at the time.

Thats like saying you ran someone over, but its okay 'cause you were drunk.

wtf?



Either ponuh messed up with what he was trying to say or he really doenst know what the hell hes talking about. Either way i stand behind what i said earlier, anyone who believes what the media says about things like this, should be shot.

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yawn. who cares about football, baseball postseason is about to begin!

Lemme guess the Yankees are involved? Yawn.... maybe a team other than the Yankees will win the World Series (the fact that they can keep making the postseason makes me hate baseball). Baseball has no parity and even more grossly overpaid players than football. Same shit every year as far as what teams are in the postseason usually. The Red Sox and White Sox winning lately has made it more interesting if you care about those teams, that doesn't change the fact that I hate baseball. Barry Bonds is going to play another year just to break Hank Aaron's record, yay... Maybe he will play DH, which in itself is bullshit (I mean the position of DH is bullshit). Pitchers should have to hit if they are going to pitch inside and hit batters. The parity issue is the worst part of baseball, owners can just buy championships. It is rare you see great teams with low payrolls competing with the big boys... the Florida Marlins, Oakland A's, and the Minnesota Twins try to do that.

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No, I was watching the news and he came on for a press conference and he said "yes, I did say certain things to that extent, but I was very groggy at the time from the pills" in response to a question about why he had said that he was attempting to harm himself to police.

God, let's hope the media doesn't report on what the POLICE TELL THEM.

i'm already sick of football to the point of vomitous expulsions, so i just wish i didn't have to hear about their little drama escapades

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This thread made it look like I follow football. I actually don't. This was just on the news and stuff. I do like how people take it so seriously, though.

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of this forum?

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Wouldn't what defeat the purpose of this forum?

Not talk about drama here.

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Most of the drama in Football is T.O.'s lame ass anyway. Baseball has Barry Bonds and whatever player is found to be using regular steroids and not HGH (everyone who is not caught in all professional sports are using HGH imo). That is drama also, and I am sick of it. The personalities of NFL players can grate on me, but I dislike all teams other than the one I follow. I hate T.O. and when he was at Jacksonville I booed the piss out of him, and his team lost (I hate the Cowboys and their owner anyway). Also sick of seeing the same teams at the top over and over in baseball, while the same teams remain in the cellar. The somewhat cyclical nature of the NFL is more exciting to watch, same with the parity.

I also like contact sports where there is violence in the actual sport. Fighting isn't the same as violence that occurs in the actual sport naturally. Hockey is awesome in this regard, but still relies too much on fights for action. Baseball has fights (which are lame) and pitchers doing brush backs and some contact at the plate. That is weaksauce in my opinion. Add to it that they play 100+ games a year like basketball does also... that makes me lose interest as well. Football players can't play that many games due to the brutal nature of the sport and the various injuries they incur as a result. I have always loved College Football, the love I have for the NFL happened mostly when my hometown got a NFL franchise. My family has been season ticket owners since day one.

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baseball is a thinking man's game. it's a game of constant adjustments between the pitcher/catcher, hitter, and fielders. every pitch is a guessing game. baseball is a very unique game also, it's the only major sport where the defense has control of the ball.

football is just another reiteration of the same old "your goal is on this side of the field, mine is on the other side, let's see who can score the most" kinda sport, which has been played out imo. and whats with the pads and helmets? Rugby makes football players look like pansies. and I'm sure steroids are just as rampant in football as they were in baseball.

btw I know I'm in the vast minority lol.

the game of "keep away" is a thinking man's game too... and its called defense because you have to "defend" your position and not throw a ball 300x faster than a person can even run to a base.

if you have played football, it takes weeks to study a team. there are so many different formations and unique situations that it literally takes the entire week of studying that team in order to be ready for them. sure, team A can be stronger and a better team, thats why they win 77-0 against shitty teams. when you have 2 equal teams, you have a much better game.

As for pads, why wear a helmet when playing baseball? why do the catchers wear that huge vest and have a thicker glove than the other ppl?

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Football has plenty of strategy involving plays drawn up to take advantages of weakness made via building a team. Using the clock to your advantage by running the ball or choosing to throw to receivers on certain patterns is strategic. Running to one side sets up certain patterns by making the DBs move forward to help the LBs, then you throw around whatever zone/man coverage they utilize. These passes stretch the field and open up the running game again. Both running and passing open eachother up by using playaction fakes and pump action to receivers. I don't need to get into gimmick plays like reverses or flee flickers. You have to think ahead and make yourself dictate the pace of the game instead of the defense or offense doing so (both sides can dictate if they game planned correctly). In football people actually come up with game plans to utilize their strengths against the weaknesses of the opponent. Scripting entire drives and coming up with new blitz and coverage packages to confuse the opposing team's offensive personnel.

There are defenses in the NFL that actually do score, make turnovers and cause havoc. The team I follow has more of that type of mindset. Football is about causing mismatches and exploiting them. You actually have to watch game tape to see the tendecies and mistakes a player makes that generally go unnoticed, then you exploit them when you face that opponent.

Baseball has no clock to work against lol... Innings are fucking lame and the games last forever. In competition chess you have a clock to hit. Baseball's strategy is completely overrated and I understand it fully. Putting in a pinch runner, hit and run, positioning your fielders according to the current batter, pitching in a batters weak spots, working inside to set them up, pitch count, etc... it is all slow paced and the defense has a long time to adjust their strategy accordingly during the game. Football has comparable chess match elements that are done in real time, where you can pace the game and take advantage of their mistakes. The general slow pace of Baseball makes for boring as hell games. In football there is a clock between plays and you only have a few timeouts to fall back on in emergencies.

I have been to many baseball games and been bored out of my skull (mostly Braves and Red Sox games). Football, Hockey and Basketball are all more exciting and active sports (especially in person). I can only watch a team walk the opponent's best clutch RBI hitter/slugger so many times. So few teams play small ball or use steals that it makes the game more boring... reliance on the homerun kills baseball for me.

The pads in football are for several reasons. One is that rugby players are never world class sprinters (some football players have been). There are Football players that can run 40 meters in 4.3 seconds, bench press 300 lbs 25 times and vertical leap 40+ inches. Rugby players can't do this. The speed and strength level of the NFL requires pads, due to the even more violent collisions that occur. Football players are still getting broken bones, torn ligaments and concussions even with the pads and helmets. Look at Trent Green and what happened to him lately, he could have died (there are several NFL players that have been paralyzed and some who have died).

Second is how much the players are paid, if you pay them that much you want them to play as long as possible. Football is a brutal sport where some players only play a few seasons and have to retire due to injuries. They want to reduce this, so they make rule changes and include new protection via pads or helmet technology. This does effect the integrity of the game somewhat in my opinion. Safety though is a good goal that will help the players play longer but make the game even less of a gladiator sport.

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football is the 1 thing in this world i hate.

i enjoy the one-on-one of baseball. putting the player on the spot. being able to see the player's face. memorable records. many more games to enjoy. the line drive down the foul line. people hitting over .300. coming back from 6 runs down in the 9th. the ivy at wrigley field. the history of breaking racial barriers. the pennant races and world series. pinch hitting with a pitcher when you're out of bench players. the balk that wins the game. squeeze plays. anticipation while fielding, maybe the ball will roll your way. the diving catches. the catcher throwing off his helmet. a runner getting a leadoff. knowing a pitcher's habits. knowing where a batter can't hit a strike. the pitcher shaking off the catcher's signs. extra inning wins. bench clearing brawls. there are a lot of things i enjoy about baseball.

but every radio station, tv station, human mouth, all going on and on about football, even before the season starts. does reggie bush have a stubbed toe? oh my god. did you see that quarterback's snap during training? what is the dallas coach wearing today? let's rehash last year's super bowl and compare it to the 80328 possibilities for this year's superbowl while we jizz. a dozen games or so and the season is over? wtf is that. lets kick it to one side of the field, they run it back, kick, we run, we kick, run, kick, back and forth from one side to another. how much more boring can you get? football puts me to sleep just by repetitiveness. its fun to play football but only if you play basefoot with a mitt and baseball, and even then its only fun if you dont have enough space to play actual baseball.

football seems more about bonding with others than about the sport itself. people gathering together, probably drinking beer, eating something unhealthy together, the key is you do it together. wives across america pretend to like football because if they don't, it won't go over well. old fat farts sitting in their stinky recliners, daydreaming about being young again. when i go to braves games, i see the people who go buy a beer and sit in the "chop house" and pay more attention to each other than to the game. they are what's called "football fans." because it's not even really about the sport. it's about assimilating yourself into what's popular.

you should see me at the apartment, ts will be sitting on the couch, and i will start flipping through channels. channel 3. football. channel 4. football. channel 7. football. channel 12. football. channel 45. football. channel 46. football. channel 47. football. channel 48. football. channel 53. football. mtv? football. the radio? football. i go to work? i hear people talk about football. i go to the store? there's a sale on footballs. and beer. sometimes i pretend to be a football fan with TS just to make fun of it, and i'm like "DOOD just be cool about football. its all about having a good time." and taking over america. you should go to texas sometime. or oklahoma. hell even atlanta is just as bad. but in texas and oklahoma they have nothing else to live for except maybe church. when i go to sleep i have nightmares about footballs attacking me in a future where if you dont like football you get attacked by footballs until you spin around in circles screaming all the while you are searching, looking everywhere for the last surviving baseball fan, and he's standing in the middle of a baseball field somewhere but there are dozens of people around him tossing footballs trying to kill baseball. by the way i heard the yankees and red sox are being moved over to football so they can shut down the mlb and give all of its money to football so they can build more seats in each football stadium. also football is being incorporated into the pledge of allegience, the constitution, and prayers across america because i read when each and every last human being is a football fan then jesus will come down and create heaven on earth which is actually nothing more than an endless football field with endless bleachers and beer and footballs for everyone.

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interesting post eternus, but I still think football's boring and baseball's exciting.

lol @ whisp

Put me in touch with your cable provider.

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More statements genralizing football fans and the sport. At all the baseball games I have been to there were people that were eating unhealthy foods and drinking beer as well, except the stands weren't as full (still the same type of people there). Yes the most popular sport is football, so there is plenty of opportunities to criticize it. The reason why it is everywhere is because people actually watch it. That is unlike boring ass, tired baseball that rests on its own laurels. Baseball needs instant replay but would have problems doing it, that is due to how boring and overly-drawn out the actual game is. Baseball is in need of a ton of changes, right now I wouldn't wipe my ass with the game of baseball.

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