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 Post subject: Have you ever wanted to taste T-Rex Steak?
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Heres a pretty damn crazy story.


http://www.calacademy.org/science_now/h ... issue.html

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HEADLINE SCIENCE: Dino Discovery

Scientists see the softer side of Tyrannosaurus rex.

When paleontologists find fossilized dinosaur bones during a dig, they usually do everything in their power to protect them, using tools like toothbrushes to carefully unearth the bones without inflicting any damage. However, when scientists found a massive Tyrannosaurus rex thigh bone in a remote region of Montana a few months ago, they were forced to break the bone in two in order to fit it into the transport helicopter. This act of necessity revealed a startling surprise: soft tissue that had seemingly resisted fossilization still existed inside the bone. This tissue, including blood vessels, bone cells, and perhaps even blood cells, was so well preserved that it was still stretchy and flexible.

A scanning electron microscope revealed that the dinosaur blood vessels, which are 70 million years old, are virtually identical to those recovered from modern ostrich bones. The ostrich is today’s largest bird, and many paleontologists believe that birds are the living descendants of dinosaurs. Scientists may be able to confirm this evolutionary relationship if they can isolate certain proteins from the recently discovered T. rex tissue. These proteins could also help solve another puzzle: whether dinosaurs were cold-blooded like other reptiles or warm-blooded like mammals.

Does this discovery of soft dinosaur tissue mean that scientists will soon be able to clone a Tyrannosaurus rex? Probably not – most scientists believe that DNA cannot survive for 70 million years. Then again, before this discovery, most scientists believed that soft tissue could not survive for 70 million years either.


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Yes. You bring the steak, I'll bring the A1?

And I swear, if they clone a dinosaur in my lifetime I will be so happy. Even if it gobbles folks up like in Jurassic Park.


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Yes. You bring the steak, I'll bring the A1?

And I swear, if they clone a dinosaur in my lifetime I will be so happy. Even if it gobbles folks up like in Jurassic Park.


I feel the same way. If people had to die in order to have a dinosaur brought back to life, well thats something I would be just fine with. Unless it was me or someone I know lol.

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Does this discovery of soft dinosaur tissue mean that scientists will soon be able to clone a Tyrannosaurus rex? Probablynot – most scientists believe that DNA cannot survive for 70 million years. Then again, before this discovery, most scientists believed that soft tissue could not survive for 70 million years either.


I too will be fucking ecstatic, if I can see a cloned live dinosaur in my lifetime.

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Wow, that's crazy. I'd love to see dinosaurs again, yes.

Jurrasic Park had the right idea. Just throw them all on some island. Things may evolve, sure, but that takes thousands, or millions, of years. Much longer than it'd take some high-powered aircraft to fix any threat.

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I've had ostrich steak. If that's what T-Rex will taste like then I'll pass, thank you.


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if anyone uses jarrasic park as an excuse NOT to bring dinosaurs back to life. im goin to start gobbling people up.


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Helllllll no. That's way too scary for the human race to handle. If everyone attacks each other and we already have a problem with endangered animals, what's stopping people from one day harming "dinosaurs in the future"? It just seems a bit too strange and far-fetched.


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we should just do it all right now to get it over with, why not in china? correct me if im wrong, but isnt it really overpopulated. hell its be like godzilla irl.


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Helllllll no. That's way too scary for the human race to handle. If everyone attacks each other and we already have a problem with endangered animals, what's stopping people from one day harming "dinosaurs in the future"? It just seems a bit too strange and far-fetched.



Keep in mind that there is no DNA in this example. Even if they did get some DNA who knows if they could use it. On top of that its only one type of dinosaur, not a whole parks worth.

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By that time, they will probably be using magic or something, so DNA will be less important. Then we'll all be F'ed in the A!


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I wouldn't mind tasting a T-Rex steak at least once. First things first though, I would rather just see dinosaurs running around in a controlled environment (well as controlled as possible). Watching a T-Rex run around and kill people would be funny, but only as long as I am not one of those people. I would rather hunt and kill dinosaurs myself. Kind of like a stocked lake, where they keep putting in fish for people to fish up and eat. Dinosaurs could be farmed just like any other animal of course. For some reason I think dinosaur meat wouldn't taste good at all, therefore the whole eating dinosaurs thing wouldn't work. Looking at them like they were in a zoo like in Jurassic Park would be cool. I sure as hell don't want them to be running around free. I would have a gun on me at all times that is capable of killing one if that was the case.

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I'd like to see a successful human clone before I'd even begin to believe that cloning an 80 million year old species would be possible ever.

Also fuck dinosaurs. What the fuck is with the acid spitting headflaps one? That scared the shit out of me as a child.


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Humans would be really picky when determining what a successful human clone is. I think that cloning a human with no abnormalities would be extremely difficult if not impossible. How are the sheep clones going? Can they even live as long as a normal sheep and stay relatively healthy? If we can't even make a perfect clone of another species, then maybe we shouldn't bother fucking with humans yet. Of course a human clone would be cool for the future, but there are other implications that have to be considered as far as human cloning goes. I don't know if the world can handle multiple clones of certain people. I wonder if anyone has Hitler's or some other infamous person's DNA lying around.

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Ponuh wrote:
I'd like to see a successful human clone before I'd even begin to believe that cloning an 80 million year old species would be possible ever.

Also fuck dinosaurs. What the fuck is with the acid spitting headflaps one? That scared the shit out of me as a child.


You should read the book. What the dinosaur does to Nedry in the book is really brutal. He gets acid in his eyes so the whole scene is done from his perspective. Basically he gets sliced open and knocked over and then the dinosaur chews on his head until he passes out.

I read that book before the movies came out (by a year or two) and I read them again last year. Totally worth reading.

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Helllllll no. That's way too scary for the human race to handle. If everyone attacks each other and we already have a problem with endangered animals, what's stopping people from one day harming "dinosaurs in the future"? It just seems a bit too strange and far-fetched.



Keep in mind that there is no DNA in this example. Even if they did get some DNA who knows if they could use it. On top of that its only one type of dinosaur, not a whole parks worth.


Wait, are you saying that there is no recoverable DNA in that issue stuff? There's gotta be. Maybe I misunderstood, though.

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i read jurassic park in like 6 hours. it was good times.

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I'm sure a ton of political red-tape and blah blah would occur if 1 dinosaur got cloned. Especially since whoever cloned it would have a virtual monopoly and could charge whatever they wanted to show it. Then the hating and legalese would really happen and media would jump on it since it would make them money etc. etc. I think this problem would be bigger than the actual dinosaur!


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Sunshine wrote:
Helllllll no. That's way too scary for the human race to handle. If everyone attacks each other and we already have a problem with endangered animals, what's stopping people from one day harming "dinosaurs in the future"? It just seems a bit too strange and far-fetched.


Not only do I agree, but I'll be honest:


I would probably shit my pants and cry in a corner til I got chewed to pieces.


JP scared the crap outta me when I was a kid.

Follow up to that, we (me and my parents) had to leave the theatre and see Last Action Hero cause I was so scared.

However, I do now like the movies and the books were much better. I'd still be scared, though, lol.

EDIT: Book 2 was better, imo.


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I liked both just as much. I couldnt say what one I like better because I liked them both for different reasons. I thought the second was a little more scary, just because the island was more of a "natural" enviroment for the dinosaurs. I freaking hated the movie version. They changed pretty much every aspect. I mean its bad enough the movie kept Hamond alive, but still...

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Yarr wrote:
I liked both just as much. I couldnt say what one I like better because I liked them both for different reasons. I thought the second was a little more scary, just because the island was more of a "natural" enviroment for the dinosaurs. I freaking hated the movie version. They changed pretty much every aspect. I mean its bad enough the movie kept Hamond alive, but still...



Very true...

I had seen the movie before I read the book, so I was shocked to learn there were actually TWO kids. Which, I think made the story more intense. Especially with what happens between the two of them. (Like the boy and the cage, just wow. I'd be like omg kill me now and get it over with. >_<)


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yeah the second book made the second movie look like a joke.

I mean nothing beats watching a baby t-rex chew and rip apart someone alive... er alive as you can be after being beaten by a t-rex lol.

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yeah the second book made the second movie look like a joke.

I mean nothing beats watching a baby t-rex chew and rip apart someone alive... er alive as you can be after being beaten by a t-rex lol.


Annnnnnnnnnnd that's exactly why I fear for my life if ppl clone them and they go on rampages. lol.

On a side note, the T-Rex's didn't sacre me much(I always figured if I hopped on his foot he wouldn't be able to reach me, lol), but it was the fuggin Raptors that made me cringe. Smart, fast, packhunters, and deadly?

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I'd like to see a successful human clone before I'd even begin to believe that cloning an 80 million year old species would be possible ever.

Also fuck dinosaurs. What the fuck is with the acid spitting headflaps one? That scared the shit out of me as a child.


You should read the book. What the dinosaur does to Nedry in the book is really brutal. He gets acid in his eyes so the whole scene is done from his perspective. Basically he gets sliced open and knocked over and then the dinosaur chews on his head until he passes out.

I read that book before the movies came out (by a year or two) and I read them again last year. Totally worth reading.


I don't like Crichton.


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They wanted to keep JP at PG-13 so they could reach the biggest audience possible. That is why all the graphic violence was left out. This is how a lot of book to movies conversions are done that don't come out as R movies. A PG-13 rating wasn't possible if they were to show all those deaths, especially how gory they would have to be to portray what happened in the book correctly. On top of all that the movies would have been way too long for most people if they included all the things that made the JP books great.

Yarr has the X-Men 3 DVD and in that the deleted scenese were probably not included because they didn't want to risk an R rating for violence. I watched the damn movie last night and saw how Storm used a wave to knock people down and lightning to fry them.. and said why the fuck did they leave that out. There are a few other scenes like that, I feel they should have used. It is like that with a good portion of movies that cut shit out to get a different rating (PG-13 is the biggest culprit). GOGO CENSORSHIP.

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