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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:15 am 
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So this guy puts up his resume on some job posting website and he gets a response from a female army recruiter. Things seemed ok until he mentioned that hes gay (although why he did that is kind of odd).

Its gold lol. God Bless America!

http://freedomtoserve.blogspot.com/2007 ... mails.html

link to email exchange:

http://www.pamspaulding.com/graphics/Ra ... s_SLDN.pdf

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I saw this. I thought it was hilarious. "Go do a gay limbo in Africa" hahahha

I get asked to join on a daily basis now. Some days I just politely say 'no thanks' and other days I snicker and look at them incredulously and say "no". I suppose it's a good sign that I'm not giving awkward and apparent signs of gayness.


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Links don't work for me.

The marines stopped looking for me a while ago, they must have realized I'm a short dude with a bad back and horrendous eyesight.

40 yard dash takes me a minute and a half. Heil Crocodile.

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links fixed, sorry

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Holy shit that email is bad. I can't believe she can keep her job after talking like that as a recruiter....oh wait yeah I can.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH! YOU CAN SUCK MY ASS AND LICK ON MY BALLS!!

Go Team America!

That email actually upset me a little and I'm not even gay lol.

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Links don't work for me.

The marines stopped looking for me a while ago, they must have realized I'm a short dude with a bad back and horrendous eyesight.

40 yard dash takes me a minute and a half. Heil Crocodile.


lmao!

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LMAO!

Did the Recruiter get removed from Army?

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A testament to the fact that America needs to up our education, people like that recruiter make me sick.

And as far as the general goes, I remember watching his speech when I was getting my oil changed at Jiffy Lube (Took for fucking ever, goddamn Tempe) and thinking the general didn't SEEM like a bad guy. He seemed educated and I felt did well not to insult anyone, but just state his personal beliefs about gay people, which is he doesn't approve of them and therefore can't condone them in the military.

I'm not sure if it's HIS view, but I believe he shares the same view as I do which is that I certainly don't condone being gay, but that doesn't stop me in the least from being friends with Gay people, or thinking they're great people or completely capable of serving in the military. There's nothing in my being that says "Be mean to people you don't agree with." That's not my agenda, and it doesn't seem like that's the agenda of the general either. It's just the fact that he doesn't agree with homosexuality, and therefore doesn't want homosexuality forcefully inserted into the military, i.e. gay divisions or "gay and lesbian night" in one of the tents.

But more than that, I don't think sexuality should be considered at all in the military. The militay should be concerned with how well someone can defend our country or follow orders or even improve our country, not whether or not they prefer men to women.

Anyways, I think people get too caught up on this stuff. And that email is atrocious.


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Kluya wrote:
Holy shit that email is bad. I can't believe she can keep her job after talking like that as a recruiter....oh wait yeah I can.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH! YOU CAN SUCK MY ASS AND LICK ON MY BALLS!!

Go Team America!

That email actually upset me a little and I'm not even gay lol.

DeadLegend wrote:
Links don't work for me.

The marines stopped looking for me a while ago, they must have realized I'm a short dude with a bad back and horrendous eyesight.

40 yard dash takes me a minute and a half. Heil Crocodile.


lmao!


she even went as far as to say:

FREEDOM ISN'T FREE

of course not, it costs a buck oh five.

+1

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Denchi wrote:
A testament to the fact that America needs to up our education, people like that recruiter make me sick.

And as far as the general goes, I remember watching his speech when I was getting my oil changed at Jiffy Lube (Took for fucking ever, goddamn Tempe) and thinking the general didn't SEEM like a bad guy. He seemed educated and I felt did well not to insult anyone, but just state his personal beliefs about gay people, which is he doesn't approve of them and therefore can't condone them in the military.

I'm not sure if it's HIS view, but I believe he shares the same view as I do which is that I certainly don't condone being gay, but that doesn't stop me in the least from being friends with Gay people, or thinking they're great people or completely capable of serving in the military. There's nothing in my being that says "Be mean to people you don't agree with." That's not my agenda, and it doesn't seem like that's the agenda of the general either. It's just the fact that he doesn't agree with homosexuality, and therefore doesn't want homosexuality forcefully inserted into the military, i.e. gay divisions or "gay and lesbian night" in one of the tents.

But more than that, I don't think sexuality should be considered at all in the military. The militay should be concerned with how well someone can defend our country or follow orders or even improve our country, not whether or not they prefer men to women.

Anyways, I think people get too caught up on this stuff. And that email is atrocious.


What do you mean you "don't condone it"?


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Kluya wrote:
Holy shit that email is bad. I can't believe she can keep her job after talking like that as a recruiter....oh wait yeah I can.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH! YOU CAN SUCK MY ASS AND LICK ON MY BALLS!!

Go Team America!

That email actually upset me a little and I'm not even gay lol.

DeadLegend wrote:
Links don't work for me.

The marines stopped looking for me a while ago, they must have realized I'm a short dude with a bad back and horrendous eyesight.

40 yard dash takes me a minute and a half. Heil Crocodile.


lmao!


she even went as far as to say:

FREEDOM ISN'T FREE

of course not, it costs a buck oh five.

+1


lol

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He doesn't condone it unless it is done through a hole in a sheet.

What he means is that Biblically he can't condone it and that is what he claims to live his life by. What can you condone Biblically? Masturbation and any other type of sex outside of marriage is in the same area as being gay, making differing degrees of wrongness doesn't mean a sin is worse than another sin in God's eyes. Well other than Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost (think that is the only unforgivable sin from what I remember) murder and masturbation are just as bad as eachother.

Better off saying its not your thing but you don't think it should be even a topic at a job (sexuality in general). Job performance should be the main concern at any workplace. That however isn't always the case as things don't end up as they should.

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My parents are hardcore mormons. Both of them do not agree with a "Gay" lifestyle. That doesnt mean they go around abducting homos and beating them up in the back of a pickup truck. In the mormon religion life is like a giant test. Everyone is here to help eachother pass the test, but no one is here to grade\judge anyone else.
That being said my parents have said that if Sunshine and I were to get married they would have absolutly no problem with her best friend (who is a gay man) being her Maid of Honour. That was actually surprising to even me.

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Then again, Christianity is such a ridiculous joke to me that, while it annoys me that people are not only conditioned to believe that shit but to try and push their beliefs upon others, it ultimately remains only an annoyance, if not a rather large one. The American Christian Coalition is getting dangerously close to accepting that homosexuality is genetic, but only because they feel that they can develop a drug treatment to eradicate it in the womb (which is probably a good idea).

edit: Also a lot of Christians believe there to be a set "gay lifestyle" that doesn't necessarily exist. It exists only in the way a "black lifestyle" exists. Yeah, there are some traits that appear more commonly in the lifestyles of homosexuals but you can't really characterize it. A lot of Christians have a strangely strong fascination with all of it, which is why Pat Roberston sermons on homosexuality are so popular and Will and Grace can be a big hit American TV show.

Yarr, are you getting married?


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Yarrs getting married!?!?

You should invite everybody from the forums if you get married haha. I swear it won't be awkward.

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Yarrs getting married!?!?

You should invite everybody from the forums if you get married haha. I swear it won't be awkward.


Dont lie. What would be the point of going if we couldn't make it awkward. :twisted:

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Yarrs getting married!?!?

You should invite everybody from the forums if you get married haha. I swear it won't be awkward.


Dont lie. What would be the point of going if we couldn't make it awkward. :twisted:


Yeah it would be no fun if we couldn't make it awkward lol.

I would most likely get drunk and be very confrontational and social with everybody. We'd have to wear name tags so I know who to harass.

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I'd totally go to Yarr's wedding and get shit-faced and then puke all over you guys.

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What yarr said.

There are plenty of things that i do and feel bad about, or that I see happening in the world that I don't agree with. The whole idea of having a set of moral standards is something to strive for, not to just justify whatever it is that you actually go ahead and do. Be it sex before marraige (guilty), and masturbation (guilty), or stealing (guilty). Yeah i've done those things, but I don't think they're right. Same with homosexuality. It's not my bag, it's not something I've had to deal with, and I don't agree with it. Just because a ton of other people are gay doesn't mean shit to me. In the same way you wouldn't want me to make you accept God, I don't want you to make me think I should accept homosexuals. Difference is I don't bash gays, I'm not mean to gays, i think they should be able to do whatever they want, but there are plenty of people who bash me (especially on these forums) for believing in God. Who's the asshole here?

live and let live. I don't agree with homosexuality, so it must be because I'm an airheaded conformist thick-skulled christian right?


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Oh denchi, I'm so glad that you're such a non-conforming Christian that you choose to treat a group of people of whom you don't share membership in a semi-civil manner. You're really a humanitarian because you actually believe their lifestyle is wholly immoral but you'd never say it! You really are a great person! Amazing, a Christian who has the intestinal fortitude NOT to act aggressively despite it being dictated by his faith!

You're probably going to hell anyways, fag-enabler.


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He doesn't condone it unless it is done through a hole in a sheet.

What he means is that Biblically he can't condone it and that is what he claims to live his life by. What can you condone Biblically? Masturbation and any other type of sex outside of marriage is in the same area as being gay, making differing degrees of wrongness doesn't mean a sin is worse than another sin in God's eyes. Well other than Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost (think that is the only unforgivable sin from what I remember) murder and masturbation are just as bad as eachother.

Better off saying its not your thing but you don't think it should be even a topic at a job (sexuality in general). Job performance should be the main concern at any workplace. That however isn't always the case as things don't end up as they should.


Does that mean I can go murder some people AND have premarital sex and still be ok?


Also, Ponuh, have you heard of Zoroastrianism. I might have spelled that wrong, and iirc you're an Aethiest, but they do make a good point.

I am a Christian raised on the fear of God (oh noes) but the way I see it, He does everything for a reason.

People can believe what they want. From South Park, I think "Just because I say its there doesn't mean you can prove it isnt".


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1. Semi civil? I treat all gay people civilly.

2. I think their sexuality is immoral but I'd never say it? I think i just said it. I'd say it again omg!

3. The bible tells me to act with hostility towards gay people? omg where?


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1. Semi civil? I treat all gay people civilly.

2. I think their sexuality is immoral but I'd never say it? I think i just said it. I'd say it again omg!

3. The bible tells me to act with hostility towards gay people? omg where?


Awesome. You missed the subtlety of my post as much as I thought you would.

And I'm only familiar with Zoroastrianism through a world history course. It's the Persian one with the Mazda god guy or something that was more or less eradicated by Islam.


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Subtletly is hard to pull off on the interweb :-(

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And yes, the bible tells you to act with hostility towards heretics, blasphemers and the like. Homosexuals are blasphemers, therefore the bible tells you to act with hostility towards homosexuals.

But don't worry. You cherry pick what tenements of YOUR HOLY SCRIPTURE you follow because it was written to accommodate a very different time and following it directly wouldn't let you live your life (which you should have devoted to the church a long time ago, after all, this life is only a test to secure an eternity of bliss in heaven).

Your faith disgusts me. If you want to speak about immorality look no further than the acts carried out in the name of Yahweh, Abba, Allah, whatever you want to call him. It almost makes me ill to think that Christians of all people feel they have the right to condemn anything as "morally outrageous" as they've been consistently attempting to hold back the progress of secular, non-discriminatory society.


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He doesn't condone it unless it is done through a hole in a sheet.

wow A+ rofl.

Zoroastrianism was the first monotheism. It has a lot of epic language and cool names involved with it, few of which I can remember in their correct context. Iirc Ahura Mazda was "The Truth" and Ahriman was "The lie." Then you have guys like Angra Mainyu and Mithra who battle it out through the centuries. Good shit.

Anyway, there are christians that go to stadiums every sunday morning for 50,000 member mass and a shiny helmet haired priest going on about the glory with a monstrous grin on his face, and there are christians like my dad, who was a catholic priest of the paulist order, some group that tried to look at crap from different angles as what was usually taught (they had especial sympathy for Judas), and left the church to marry my macasita and have 4 kids.

Yahweh commanded the genocide of the canaanites but ey, later on when "I am who am" became a universal god he respected the existance and commanded tolerance of "other gods" (iirc) lol. I'd like to assume there's a nice idea in every religion(except islam, because that started with a genocide haha) but it's easy to take something decent and fuck it up beyond all recognition.



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