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 Post subject: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:30 am 
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FINAL FANTASY XIV fans the world round, the fourth Letter from the Producer has arrived for your viewing pleasure!

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 Post subject: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
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Well, my stint in London has drawn to a close, and I'm now making my way to L.A. At the London office, I had the chance to speak with a few people from FFXIV's French and German fan sites, and enjoyed what I felt were some very meaningful exchanges. Unfortunately, I couldn't meet up with representatives from one of the German sites due to some transportation trouble on their end. But I'll be back in Europe before long, so we'll have to get together then!

Japan to England to America in the span of a week. It's all got me feeling a bit...off. Maybe it's because I'm not the type of person who sleeps much to begin with, but I'm not really feeling the jet lag, per se. I'm just worried that if I stop to take a break or slow down, it'll hit me all at once. If anyone out there knows a cure for this nonsense, let me know.

As I mentioned before, I left the results and analysis of the second Players' Poll out of my last letter to try and keep it short, so that's seems as good a place as any to start.

I'm writing this at 30,000 feet again, so I may not be calm, cool, and collected. But my interpretations of the poll data were all made while I still had two feet on the ground, so they should be solid. (Seriously, I really hate planes.)

Poll responses numbered in the tens of thousands again, and I'd like to thank everyone who participated. Let's get right to it, shall we?


1. What do you feel are currently the most significant issues with the battle system? (up to three answers)

JP NA GB FR DE
Spamming actions. 21.3% 16.3% 16.4% 21.4% 16.1%
Lack of class uniqueness. 21.5% 22.6% 23.2% 21.0% 19.1%
Lack of party-based battle tactics. 10.9% 19.3% 20.6% 13.5% 12.4%
Insufficient effect from attributes. 16.9% 14.4% 13.7% 13.1% 21.4%
Lackluster battle animations. 15.3% 13.4% 13.7% 15.4% 13.9%
Cumbersome Battle Regimens. 14.1% 14.1% 12.5% 15.6% 17.1%

For Question 1, we decided to list up several points of concern the dev team and I had, and allow you to select multiple responses. It looks like the end result is that you feel all of them are significant issues. We'll do our best to address them all. In particular, the lack of class uniqueness seems to be prevalent in all regions. As this relates closely to core elements such as battle strategy, party composition, and attributes, we will be giving it top priority. It is going to entail a huge overhaul, including balancing the distribution of actions across classes, but we'll be looking to see what we can do, and then doing it! The result will be less monotony of actions, and once those changes have been finished, we'll move onto reworking the Battle Regimen system.


2. What type of class role would you like to use in combat?

JP NA GB FR DE
Tank (protect allies by holding enemy enmity) 17.3% 19.1% 16.5% 16.9% 14.3%
Melee (attack enemies at close range) 39.8% 33.8% 32.9% 32.3% 37.0%
Ranged (attack enemies at long range) 21.2% 20.9% 23.5% 25.1% 25.6%
Healer (heal allies with restorative abilities) 11.5% 12.7% 13.8% 13.2% 12.8%
Buffer (support allies with enhancing abilities) 10.2% 13.5% 13.3% 12.5% 10.3%

You guys love your melee attackers, don't you? I guess it's to be expected, considering Matsui (the battle team leader) tells me that melee attackers have been the most popular classes in FFXI, too. Personally, when it comes to MMOs, I'm more of a ranged man myself. I've logged more than my fair share of play time online, and have played every kind of class, but whenever asked what my main is, I always say caster first. At any rate, we'll be taking the results from Question 2 into consideration when making system changes to help encourage party-based play.


3. How frequently would you like to engage in party-based play?

JP NA GB FR DE
I'm a solo player. 20.7% 9.5% 9.6% 13.6% 6.4%
Just on the weekends. (between 1–3 hours) 17.8% 8.9% 8.1% 6.1% 10.5%
Just on the weekends. (more than 3 hours) 11.9% 9.9% 9.8% 7.1% 11.6%
Weekends and weekdays. (between 1–3 hours) 39.5% 31.3% 35.5% 30.0% 43.1%
Weekends and weekdays. (more than 3 hours) 10.0% 40.4% 37.0% 43.2% 28.4%

At first glance, Question 3's results look to be an overwhelming desire for party-based play, but looking closely at the regional breakdown, Japan in particular has a strong showing of players who prefer rolling solo. I imagine for many people it might go something like this: real life obligations at school or work → can't play for prolonged periods of time → log into a game with mostly party-based content → spend time looking for a party → end up losing actual game time. I'm well aware of these issues, and promise not to let vicious cycles like this dominate FFXIV's gameplay. I'm on it. ☺

Though we're revising the battle system with a focus on making it fun for parties, the solo/party orientation and recommended ranks of game content will be clearly defined, and future adjustments and additions will take all types of player lifestyles into account. To take guildleves as an example, there is a certain comfort in knowing that if I go to this aetheryte or that counter, there is something to do. I'm of the opinion that there is nothing better than the ability to pick up the game and play even when you only have a little bit of time to do so, and this will continue to be an important element in the future. Of course, to make party play as enjoyable as possible, we're going to be coming up with some new specs and begin implementing them when possible.


4. What types of game content would you like to undertake while in a party? (up to three answers)

JP NA GB FR DE
Ranking up. 17.9% 21.5% 20.7% 15.1% 17.2%
Farming/gathering. 5.7% 1.5% 1.4% 6.7% 1.7%
Questing. 11.5% 16.6% 16.4% 14.7% 9.8%
Guildleves. 6.6% 7.7% 7.8% 5.2% 10.9%
Behests. 5.4% 6.4% 6.2% 6.8% 10.8%
Small-scale player versus environment (PvE) content. 25.6% 20.1% 20.6% 28.5% 20.8%
Large-scale player versus environment (PvE) content. 21.6% 20.2% 21.1% 19.2% 24.4%
Player versus player (PvP) content. 5.7% 6.0% 5.8% 3.8% 4.4%

5. What types of game content would you like to undertake while playing solo? (up to three answers)

JP NA GB FR DE
Ranking up. 20.8% 17.6% 16.1% 14.9% 10.6%
Farming/gathering. 24.0% 20.0% 19.8% 21.6% 29.2%
Questing. 17.1% 20.1% 20.5% 22.7% 15.4%
Guildleves. 9.5% 9.5% 9.3% 9.0% 10.3%
Behests. 1.8% 1.7% 1.9% 1.6% 1.8%
Synthesis. 20.1% 17.4% 18.0% 20.4% 26.1%
Small-scale player versus environment (PvE) content. 4.4% 8.9% 9.5% 5.4% 3.4%
Player versus player (PvP) content. 2.4% 4.8% 4.9% 4.3% 3.2%

Questions 4 and 5 were aimed at party and solo play, respectively. These tremendously informative results will go a long way towards serving as a barometer of sorts for future content balancing. We will draw heavily on this data when considering the necessity of forming parties, the presence of in-game features to aid in doing so, and other such differences between solo and party play. These differences seem to attribute in part for the strong showing of the solo PvE content option. Also, the solo play response for farming/gathering is extremely valuable feedback for the dev team, and I’m thinking that this is something we can tie into the in-game companies we have planned!


6. In addition to enhancing class differentiation with essential attributes and distinct appearances, we are also looking into introducing class and rank requirements for equipping gear. How do you feel about the implementation of such a system?

JP NA GB FR DE
I am for it. 70.6% 68.3% 73.1% 85.1% 82.7%
I am against it. 14.6% 10.7% 10.1% 9.1% 10.8%
Either way is fine with me. 14.8% 21.0% 16.8% 5.8% 6.5%

The overwhelming majority seems to be in favor of an item system with an emphasis on class uniqueness, much like the results from Question 1. As I mentioned last letter, this is something that we've already started on, and we'll be implementing the changes over time together with adjustments to item stats.


7. The fatigue system currently in place aims to prevent excessive "grinding" of skill and experience points. Have you felt the effects of this system while playing?

JP NA GB FR DE
Yes. 72.1% 61.5% 63.4% 60.6% 65.2%
No. 27.9% 38.5% 36.6% 39.4% 34.8%

No doubt many players experienced this to a greater extent after the changes to skill and experience point calculations introduced in 1.15. I can't give any particulars about the timing, but once we rework the foundation, we'll be touching up this as well, so please bear with us.


The bonus point allotment system was intended to be a means by which players could customize their character's individuality. The free distribution of attribute points has given rise to certain problems, however, such as compatibility issues with the Armoury system, and the lowered effectiveness of the attributes themselves. In particular, this lowered effectiveness of attributes also extends its influence to items, and is therefore something that we feel must be rectified. To do so, we are currently looking into the following two options:

  1. Removal of the bonus point system, and the addition of automatic allotment of attribute points based on class.
  2. Removal of physical levels, and the addition of class-specific allotment of attribute points for each class based on rank.

8. Would you prefer option 1, option 2, or the current system?

JP NA GB FR DE
Option 1. 28.5% 27.9% 29.0% 35.1% 23.6%
Option 2. 58.9% 54.6% 52.9% 46.4% 39.3%
The current system. 12.6% 17.5% 18.1% 18.5% 37.1%

To be honest, I'm genuinely surprised by the response to Question 8, as are Matsui and Gondai on the battle team. We certainly didn't think that over 50% of players would be for doing away with physical levels. This would entail some pretty big changes tied in with enhancing class uniqueness. But we're coming to realize now that most of you seem to be saying you're fine with radical changes as long as they make the game more fun. We'll definitely refer to this data when coming up with new specs, and will be implementing them when we can!


9. If the current target claiming system were done away with, would you be in favor of a system that rewards skill, experience, and loot only to the party that first deals damage to an enemy? Or would you be in favor of skill, experience, and loot being distributed amongst all parties that contributed to an enemy's defeat?

JP NA GB FR DE
Skill, experience, and loot going to only the first party to deal damage to an enemy. 53.5% 40.0% 39.8% 39.6% 55.7%
Skill, experience, and loot going to all parties taking part in an enemy's defeat. 46.5% 60.0% 60.2% 60.4% 44.3%

Player opinions are pretty evenly split on this one, and the regional breakdowns are varied a bit as well. I'm kicking myself for not having put in a third option combining the other two: Skill and experience going to all parties, and loot going to only the first party to deal damage to an enemy.

I personally think that this mixed option (skill/experience to all involved parties, loot to only the claiming party) makes sense. Well, the official FFXIV forums will be going live shortly, and I'd very much like to open this topic up for discussion there to hear your opinions. I'll be posting, too!


10. If the current target claiming system were done away with, would you prefer for content such as dungeons and battle to be converted into instances as much as possible?
* "Instances" refer to those events and areas that can only be occupied by a single party, or certain characters, at once. This serves to prevent players from competing with one another for the same enemies, for example.

JP NA GB FR DE
Yes. 80.1% 76.9% 75.9% 88.8% 87.5%
No. 19.9% 23.1% 24.1% 11.2% 12.5%

This data is somewhat representative of the response seen to Question 9 data. The people have spoken. As such, we'll be operating under the premise that new PvE content, such as dungeons containing sought-after loot, will be instanced. By instancing content in this way, we'll be able to reduce claim wars and counter-camping and all that. There's also the added merit of enabling the level design team to work with a clear theme in mind, and create much more engaging and challenging content.

So, what did you think of the second Players' Poll results? I really can't thank you enough for all of the valuable opinions. The data has really helped us map out the direction in which to take the battle system from here. All that's left to do is to finalize the specs and start writing the code. But after-the-fact adjustments and reworkings being what they are, it simply isn't possibly to fit everything that needs to be done in a single monthly patch. And so we're planning to release every big change over the course of two smaller-size updates. You'll be able to start seeing the changes to the battle system come spring, so please be patient just a bit longer!

My next letter will be sometime after the Game Developers Conference, when I'm back on Japanese soil. Patch 1.16 will be live by then, and I'm planning on diving into the topic of in-game companies! All of the system-side preparations have been made, and it's almost time for Eorzea's radical transformation to begin!

Well, I have to man up through two more flights (L.A. to San Fran, and San Fran to Tokyo). Keep me in your prayers, everyone! It's times like this a little FF Levitate spell would come in handy...

See you next post! ☺

FINAL FANTASY XIV Producer & Director, Naoki Yoshida



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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:11 am 
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...disappointed that people want instances

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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:45 am 
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Personally I'm excited, instances were always far more fun for me.

Little disappointed that the commentary felt rushed, but its obvious why it would be so. Kinda surprising that, for the most part, pretty much all 4 zones had consistant results unlike last time (lolfrench)


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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:14 am 
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Whisp wrote:
...disappointed that people want instances

I can't see any reason why you would want other LS shitting up your fights, schedule, and time. Why add random competition to claiming stuff? Why should one LS randomly deciding to do something on the same day (a Dynamis zone) prevent anyone else from doing it? Why should NMs be on some timer for people to fight over instead of being popped with a pop item?

Nobody wants to see king camps or any of it's variants (Cerberus, Khimaira, etc) ever again.

The only "not instanced" content (not including "massive public" content such as Besieged and Conquest) in FFXI that was cool was Sky. But even that was basically instanced since gods were popped by items and once popped nobody could teleport to you. Only the lower tier NMs were farmed and not instanced.

Besides, I saw the question as asking about future battle systems (think Dynamis, Conquest, Besigned, Fields of Valor, etc) being instanced rather than asking about whether you want NMs instanced or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
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I also don't like popped NMs at all. I like the competition. I'd prefer an even playing field competition, but I'd take an uneven playing field before taking popped NMs. They feel contrived. Not as exciting. And the reward is not as satisfying.

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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:42 pm 
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I dig instances. It was always one of my favorite thing about WoW was doing heroics, or raids or whatever. If they added something similar to that to FFXIV it would add more depth than just, run around and maybe you'll experience the game as it was meant to be played. That was one of the things I hated about XI. No one wants to dedicate 3+ hours for anything that may not happen. I know I don't, but maybe that's because I've long since drifted into the realm of the casual, haha.

Anyway, a lot of these polls are a sign of good things.


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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:10 pm 
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the answers to question 3 lead me to think that only the japanese have retained their casual player base. look how different their numbers are.

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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
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Yea, I know, it's very interesting. Japanese really just want another FF solo game, haha. But I think SE needs to realize that Japan is a very tiny place, and the rest of the world wants more from their MMOs.


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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:35 pm 
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Here's a little easily missed nugget.

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It is going to entail a huge overhaul, including balancing the distribution of actions across classes, but we'll be looking to see what we can do, and then doing it!

I'm glad they're open to fixing the classes, but this is potentially dangerous for anybody who levelled a mage, lol. Could log in one day to find your R50 mage of choice is now just a healer when you wanted to be a nuker.

I think one of the interviews floating around mentions that they're looking at either adding "class specializations" or "advanced jobs". This makes a lot of sense, as simply renaming the old jobs wasn't going to work, nor was scrapping them a viable option. But given what the above quote says, maybe they're looking into simply "stealing" actions for the new jobs/specializations. i.e.: Take "Cover" away from Gladiator, give it Paladin.

Either way, don't get too attached to your abilities!

PS: As for player distribution. Just take the bars on this particular graph:

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And stack em together with photoshop:

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Considering how small Japan really is, they still have a large voice here.


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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
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Talk Talk Talk Talk.

SE sure loves to talk, but its been 5 months since launch. This game is still broken. I need to see some action. I dont even feel that great about leveling my job for the exact reason Ket has stated. I want want to end up getting to 50 and find out THM=BLM and CNJ=WHM. I dont mind being a healer, I love it, but I wanted my first job I leveled to be BLM and then have WHM as my backup Job.

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I would prefer instanced fights, I personally don't care to camp against another LS for 3+ hours to watch them claim the pop. I understand the Ridill is Epenis+3 because it's a rare drop from a HQ version of an overcamped HNM, that causes people to lose sleep and wake up at 4AM to help their LS kill it. We don't need that shit in this game. That takes the fun out of it.

We are already too impatient to wait for NMs to repop when their timer expires. URAEUS TIMER EXPIRED, LETS TELEPORT TO GOBLIN, THEN LETS TELEPORT BACK TO UREAUS,THEN BACK TO GOBLIN UNTIL NOBODY HAS ANIMA! Instanced would be much better for us.

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Id like to see some world NM stay. Lets just make the items they drop more trophy items than gear items. Like fluff vanity gear that people done "need" but "want". Make an NM Goblin drop a Goblin Mask that anyone can wear. I do like that NMs dont drop the item, but rather a recipe item that makes something cool.

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I agree with that. So, they're completely overhauling the classes? That should be fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:23 pm 
Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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Whisp wrote:
I also don't like popped NMs at all. I like the competition. I'd prefer an even playing field competition, but I'd take an uneven playing field before taking popped NMs. They feel contrived. Not as exciting. And the reward is not as satisfying.


I will admit that beating an instance does not compare to the thrill of winning the pull and killing shit in front of other people. But the hours and hours wasted to get just a couple pulls is not worth it. And I don't really give a fuck about any other LS's these days (except that they're fun to mock). I'd rather just jump on in the afternoon, grab some CKD, and hit up an instance at any time, rather than schedule my day around potential world NM spawns.

Now, the way the world NMs work right now isn't bad, since they can spawn a bunch a times in a single day. But there's no way I want to put up with 3 Kings-type camping again.


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All I can say is that I'm glad that I plan to max out all mage jobs, because if THM goes the way of BLM (Don't see it), then I'll be happy that I can do either. I just like being a mage, so I won't be terribly upset, either way, but I'm hopefully on the fast track to getting CNJ up to 50 in the next two months.

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Whisp wrote:
I also don't like popped NMs at all. I like the competition. I'd prefer an even playing field competition, but I'd take an uneven playing field before taking popped NMs

You're nuts. The only competition that ever existed in king camping was who had the best bot. All the biggest bosses in ffxi right now are forced spawns. The fun part is killing them in 3-5 minutes when it takes some other groups 45+.

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