Yeah, because loot determines player skill. And because randomly generated loot tables means that one linkshell's near-kill takes precedence over another's full-kill with 18 nonswapped people (save for me leaving the alliance at 10% so Ilma could get in since monk is useless for HNMs next to BLM) :P

That comment was really out of line, seeing as how everyone on the server knows Reinheld's dream item is that abjuration, and is the main reason we really want to kill it. Not like we're killing it to trying to farm abjs for our alternate jobs, or just to have extra abjs in case someone happens to make a +1 version of the cursed gear.

lol its so true. I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like if we really did something mean.

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so... whats the point of this long post i just read?

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Caduceus makes a strong point and it's the only point I even care about. I'm sorry if some of you worship KFC or whatever, but the way they play is a bane to the entire Ifrit community. Admit it, camping an HNM for 1-3 hours only to waste your time by not getting claim to (regardless if they cheat or not) the same LS again and again. You have to admit anyone of you in any LS anywhere would be frustrated. JUST ADMIT IT!

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EVERYONE needs to just let it go. Seriously. I have seen so much mudslinging, namecallling and putdowns on these forums and others to make me never want to come back. It's a game. Lighten up.

No linkshell is perfect. Every one has their problems. But, yeah, I'm going to have to agree that Yarr's first post definitely implies some shady business going on with FS. Does it make me believe it? No. Because I'm an adult and can make my own decision about people.

I don't know exactly why people are mad at CKD for this, and honestly, I don't care either way. People who are truly friends of CKD will remain friends with them regardless of what others say. And people who listen to the garbage rumors that run amock in Lower Jeuno... who cares what they think anyway? Do you really want to be someone's friend who can't think for themselves?

And, I also think that nobody should be pointing fingers at other linkshells for botting, regardless of why they think they're doing it or not. I know people from almost ALL of the major HNM ls who have botted in one way or another. There probably isn't one ls on this server who hasn't had one of their memebers bot at one time or another. Not saying every member does it, but none are 100% innocent. Keep this in mind when pointing it out about others.

I think that people forget sometimes that a linkshell is made up of individual people who are responsible for their individual actions. You shouldn't judge an entire ls based on what one person says or does. Or even on what 10 people say or do. And on a side note, kinda, every linkshell has assholes in it and every linkshell has angels in it. Is CKD or FS or Valour an exception this? No. There are members CKD who I would consider some of my best friends in this game. And there are members are just downright assholes sometimes. The same goes for my own linkshell. Some are sweet as sugar and some suck ass. That's just the way it is. I can't really say too much about FS or Valour because I simply don't know anybody from those linkshells too well.

Some of these posts have gone lower than freaking common courtesy and basic respect. Some posts seem like they're out to just hurt people. And that is truly disheartening. It's a game. It's not real life.

It takes a lot to make me post on stuff like this, but damn, this shit is simply getting out of control... on everyone's side. Someone famous once said something like.. "When you hate someone, you may as well love them because you spend just as much emotion and time thinking about them." If someone truly bothers you, the best way to get back at them is to simply forget they exist. And they can longer touch you.

Just as Yarr put it earlier, I probably shouldn't be posting this, but I am. Because this is just starting to seem like high school way too much. Everyone just let everything go. Nothing can be taken back or changed and everyone knows that threads like this usually never have good or peaceful endings. Please, for the love of God, and everything holy on Ifrit, let it go.

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it would be frustating

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If Lazy agrees it must be true.

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i speaketh teh truth

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milly its ok, lets cyber so you can feel like your a child molester

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I also cured people during the fight and congratulated them for the kill at the end.

The thing that doesn't make sense is Arthars killing it. If you had 3 people left, why didn't you kill it yourselves? It was unclaimed for us and we didnt steal it at less than 1%. I'm not trying to make fun of you guys, I just don;t understand. The only reason you guys are mad at us is because of the things that were said after the fight. If we would of known you wanted Arthars to kill it then I don't think we would of even stayed for that. I still wonder what would of happened if we were not there. Would Arthars really have gave you all the loot?

Yea i posted at last, prob first and last post for this thread.
Just a few points to clear up, be it happy or not, like i said before, this is ur Forum, Homeground fans Advantage.

1."I am glad arthars return the loot"?. No fxxking way, the loot is originally FS's and i am just happen to be there to be doing this, making sure they get their rare ABJs. Other LS dudes who perhaps get to claim the kill MIGHT do wat my LS did.

2."Arthars steal Nidhogg" from some forums. Again no fxxking way. Reason is simple, IT COULD BE U!

3."Arthars kill nidhogg and only return loots because CKD was there". Wtf theory is this? Why do i care CKD is there? oh, so i can be a noble man out of the day and people think Arthars is great? No thanks. As if i can anticipate Nidhogg will wipe everyone, and miraclously, leaving arthars alone within Sipke's range. I am god if i can predict that.

4."Well done FS i think u did a better job than CKD". I say this because of a few factor. A.Fatesealers got pull. B.They wiped but managed to come back that fast again. C.They did a very good fight and have the whole LS to be there to participate this amazing drama. D.They dont Whine.

Lastly, its really amazing that everyone in the Spike range got wiped(Taking 2xxx damage except for me) except me, who only take 97 damage. It has to be Arthars among the 6x people who wiped from trail within range. Imagine if i die, some XXX character from XXX LS did what i did. U guys gotta flame the hell outa him? well i dunno :\ it seems like SE doing a big joke letting ARTHARS live to kill Nidhogg.

I come here not to flame anyone or defend myself. But my MAIN point is this. "Arthars gives back loot because CKD is there" "Arthars do this because to spite CKD" <- What theory is this? i dont care CKD is there or not to allow fatesealers lot their own loot. Do i need to have CKD present at Aery so i can invite FS to lot? No way. CKD is not President or VIP of FFXI to witness this.

The true fact should be this "KFC invites FS to party to lot THEIR OWN LOOT."

Dont think ARTHARS is some big fry in KFC and can make all decision to "Hey FS come in and lot."

Its a KFC decision.

Lastly Congrats Nidhogg Slayers Fatesealers.

I agree!

Could you give me a cup of STFU, I'm thirsty.

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Three nation: Done Zilart: Done CoP: Done

Question... how the hell did you generalize ALL of Monarchy to hating CKD? Reality check, sure enough some may dislike SOME ppl of CKD but no one said all members of Monarchy hated all members of CKD. Step out of your house for a second and smell the beautiful air outside. The game is rotting your head~

Now that Arthar is here too, I think we are just missing Nidhogg and we are set.

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Three nation: Done Zilart: Done CoP: Done

Hey! Let arthras defend himself. I wanted to read his english!

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Well lets see now

Being the awkward person I am I hope I dont make any dumb posts like ive had a few past times. All i want is to get my 2 cents in. Before I get shot down , I wasn't even aware FS was fighting Nidhogg , Im usually afk or doing my work and playing at the same time and have no clue what is going on.

I dont see anything We would get out of this argument everyone had a valid point everyones making smart decisions on whats right and wrong. I know CKD dislikes Arthars and vice versa. I wouldnt be surprised if Arthars was beating off in his basement to see 2 of the most respected LS's (in my eyes atleast) to argue over something.( Not that I have anything against Arthars) ( dont even know who the guy is) So I please beg of you to stop fighting , its just fueling anger and amusement for some other people.

Instead of jst saying who was right or wrong I just want to congratulate Clent on his Hauberk. And of all the people Id expect to be arguing , I feel bad for Rein because I as well as other people wanted him to be the first NA with an Adaman Hauberk on.

I am not anyone to say anything in this matter but flinging mud at each other is brining up past conflicts people have had with each other.
I might sound like a 6 year old who hates to see thier parents fight and cries.
Edit : yarr spelled Happened wrong

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someone post what Althbino originally said, I heard it was funnier (in a pathetic sort of way) than what Yarr edited it to :P

We've been over this before

I didnt edit it, he really likes little boy penis, not my fault.

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Ah well then not enough since of course it had to be brought up again just because Ero made that thread~~

Not all Monarchy hates CKD.

so whats your point?

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Here is your Dragon Kaylia. (I won't say anything, not my thread, not of my concern, Kaylia wanted to see the dragon.)

Ero was asking for it anyway lol.

Hes been spouting the same EXACT lines we've heard from monarchy 50 thousand times before. "Omg people are sheep blah blah blah" Grats on a being a hypocritcal douchebag.

I was partying with someone in Valour in Valkurm when this all happened. "I'm missing Fafnir for this [Valkurm Party]." Hahahahahaha... True story.

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I'm sure mose of you guys think Ero deserves, I could give a rats ass, it's just sad to see how everything needs to be generalized.
My point basically is saying, if you want to say a group of people hate your LS, atleast be sure you know they all do. No need to throw a label on people just because of some others' opinions or whatever happened prior in your LS. I could careless of whatever bullshit is going on that keeps this hate between any of the LS's on server, grow up and get over it. We're playing a fricking game, this isn't real life

And what's this: "Omg people are sheep blah blah blah" I don't get it If it's been said by Monarchy 50 thousand times, I must be either completely out of the loop or fucking slow b/c I've never heard it