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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:44 am 
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Hey, well i finally capped my sam's subjobs (WAR THF RNG) and i was wondering what gear you guys suggest to use for each subjob, i was thinking +str for /war and +agi for /thf and /rng, anyway thanks in advance for advice!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:58 am 
Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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I think Reinheld is the person to talk to about this.

Last I knew he had all his gear planned out for his sam if and when he decided to level it again. Unfortunately I don't remember everything ; ;


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:09 am 
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With my Sam this is what diff gear i use

for /rng i got some Scop Rings+1 not xpensive but i macroed then in my Range macro and then macroed my Snipers in my meditae or Throd eye. and macroed the scops in Siderwinder. and had mermans gorget or Specs what ever u go with + range is better. i natualy tweaked my gear for rng sub in end game. never really worryed about Agl since your Haub has -5 on it. and u could use squid for for rannge attack and still has Acc as sole i believe but again ur Call


for War Str is best i would guess if u wanna spend gil on +str rings for WS go nutz i never really worryied about it too much

for Thf more Dex the better imo. I got a Emp hair pin and mayve some Dex rings for SATA. again i don't bother too much with the rings.

But playing bst and brd i hate Eqip Change macros i Adviod at all costs haha. nor do i even have the room for it all with Brd and Bst at 75. don;t forget to F??k all you equip macros for ballista!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:19 am 
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AGI won't do much at all...would boost ranged acc. by a bit i guess, but nothing significant.

DEX doesn't do anything for thf sub. SA just makes the next hit a critical..nothing else.

so...STR, all the way, as much as you can. and with rng sub just have the ranged acc. equip macroed in for any ranged stuff

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Samurai for a samurai with a ranger sub, you need as much ranged acc as you can get. Seiryu's Kote, Merman's Rings, +1 bow, the whole thing. While Samurai has pretty high archery skill, in order to be really effective on things with high evasion like gods and such, you need some pretty decked out gear.

For War sub it's basically finding the balance between acc, atk and str. Since samurai is limited by what it can wear because of accuracy needs, this can be a challenge.

And for THF sub, macro in as many STR boosting items as possible or you'll be doing weak 800-900 WS with SA/TA. All the modifers for a samurai's WS are STR based, so if you want to make up for the lose of double attack and berserk, you'll need the best gear, not just good gear.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:45 am 
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From alot of the DD classes out there i notice that Sam needs like Top gear to Do some Pretty decent dmg or they will pick a mnk or a rng over you Easy.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:34 am 
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as a monk i think sam/thf was (and still is) one of my favorite DD partners for later lvls. sam/thf can keep up with tp, and sam/thf can always end a SC on the tank so hate would be planted, allowing me to go nuts. high tp gain and hate control is a nice compliment to jobs like rng or mnk.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:47 am 
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thank you guys for all the info! heres what im using at the moment:

Archers knife, (looking to buy msk cmn shield)
Warbow+1 (arrows)
Emp pin, macro in mycho kabuto for med
Looking for merman or coral gorget
2 of the +3agi earing atm, can't afford the +2str ones they 3mil ; ;
Scorp harness (friend let me borrow haub and he needed it)
ochi kote
Snipersx2, and scorp ringsx2
amemit+1
life belt
The lvl 64 sam/mnk/nin legs gives +3agi +2enmity
and Leaping Boots as feet

O am gona try modify the STr items when i can coook up some more gil and for the better +rng acc items but gil kinda short on me atm (borrowing friend emp pin need to buy one) so thanks a whole heap for the info! see ya again

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:00 am 
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I'm no sam, but im pretty sure you should be using a great katana for exp even as SAM/RNG, the tp you gain while meleeing will help as well. Also, if that's your harness, get rid of it and buy a haubergeon or haubergeon +1, Sam doesnt need harness nor is it as beneficial as the +5 STR,DEX, +10 attack difference.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:12 am 
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Scorp Harness sucks for regular melee damage dealers. THF and NIN are the only classes that should be using it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:24 pm 
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what about mnk? they need scorp?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:12 pm 
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Well this might not be for all sams but I'll tell you how I play each of the 3 subs.

/war - the omgletswhackamobhard sub

Generally as much atk/acc gear as possible. I think most of my melee damage comes while berserk is up which is every 3mins out of 5. Berserk is also +25% atk so having high attack gives you a greater increase when you use berserk. With berserk up my hits are 1.5x to 2x as much damage as normal melee hits on sky weapons and they check VT at 75 for reference. I don't really notice a difference between +atk/acc melee hits and +str melee hits so I stick with +atk/acc gear for faster TP. This is my prefered exp PT sub.

/thf - the utility sub

Well as /thf your melee hits are going to be weaker than with a war sub and you lose double attack so your DoT is already going down. I try not to exp like this but it is really helpful for HNMs, Gods etc. I have +54 str with food and my SATA WS seem to cap out at about 1200-1250. Like Rein said the best sam WS are str modifed so stack up on as much +str gear as you can and macro it for WS.

/rng - the fun sub

Again with this sub you lose your attack bonus and double attack from /war sub but nevertheless this sub is interesting. I basically stack as much r. acc and +agi gear on as possible and if I'm fighting anything that checks higher than T I use squid sushi. I also use JSE body, JSE legs and JSE feet for this sub as it will give you +16 WS acc for Sidewinder. I find this sub very fun for stuff like dynamis. I hit 4 Sidewinders on DL before he pwned me. Squid sushi really helps to minimize the acc issue between sam/rng and rng/anything. For exp I can get away with using a GK and still hit my Sidewinders but for sky NMs, Gods and dynamis I use an archer's knife and master commander's shield most of the time.

All I can think of writing right now, if you have more questions about my gear or whatever just post them :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:18 am 
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thanks again for the info guys helped out alot!^^

saving on my STr mods atm!
and working on haub and JSE set

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