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Don't think the timer will be random. The update note clearly states that it's going to be claimable after a set ammount of time.


Then this update does nothing cept let us look at the pretty NM being yellow. In fact this update has must made bots even stronger -.-b



Not really. I'm just scared delay will be too short and mob will still pop unclaimed against ppl with better ping.

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-Whatever HNM pops
-Player waits until 25 or less seconds before HNM's predetermined time to become claimable
-Player uses chainspell
-Player spams dia/whatever

Maybe?

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No no, you can't just "spam", you can't wait 25 seconds and THEN spam either.

If you "Jump the gun" and attempt to claim before you are supposed to, you will be "disqualified" from being able to claim the mob.


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You guys are also forgetting that it is "spells or abilities". What stops that silly thf from using a ranged attack or the paladin from engaging immediately and wacking it?


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oh yea wonder if this will or will not affect chainspell

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It won't be 25 sec because it would become annoying on normal pop.

I can't see it it being longer than 3-4 seconds (the time after a monster pop where it won't aggro anyone), but it's probably even shorter.

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I think everyone's celebrating a little too early. like everything else in this game i bet this somehow creates more of an advantage for JPS to claim over NAs, and if not, you know some groups of JPs will have when it will be claimable all figured out within a week or be able to write some kind of program/script that will allow them to see when the mob will become claimable. but at least it's a step in the right direction and it shows SE is trying to make this game as fair as possible for ALL it's players (even if the majority of their efforts usually wind up being completely useless).


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Well, you can select a spell, use it, press down arrow key and use next spell. Would take less than a second. From the sounds of it you are only prevented from using that one spell/job ability again. Blech, I don't know. Also, Tilo makes a good point.

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cast a spell and interupt it. there is a cooldown on your action after that attempt. when i try and cast utusu and it fails it takes 2-3 seconds before im allowed to try and cast it again, or even provoke. i think thats what theyll do when you try and claim it when its not ready.

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Tilo wrote:
You guys are also forgetting that it is "spells or abilities". What stops that silly thf from using a ranged attack or the paladin from engaging immediately and wacking it?


I think you'll find that /attack and /ra are abilities. They may not be "Job Abilities" but they are something you can instruct your character to do, thus they are abilities. Walking is an ability...


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I love this update. Now i don't have to sit around for like 3 hours spamming 1 button going crazy lol.

Do you guys remember several months ago whem mobs popped and were unclaimable for serveral seconds? I wonder if SE was testing at the time. 8)

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I love this update. Now i don't have to sit around for like 3 hours spamming 1 button going crazy lol.

Do you guys remember several months ago whem mobs popped and were unclaimable for serveral seconds? I wonder if SE was testing at the time. 8)


Nah, you will still have to spam most likely, just that you will actually get a chance to win.

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and lat i dont hate you but seriously...

STR+10 DEX+10 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Evasion-10


since when do any of these stats affect a bst... who uses a pet to kill its foes? if anything war and drk actually need these stats and its just fluff for a BST who wants to be a WAR or DRK =p

thats like a BRD outlotting a NIN on byakko haidate.

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How will you know when you will be able to claim it?


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Don't think the timer will be random. The update note clearly states that it's going to be claimable after a set ammount of time.


Then this update does nothing cept let us look at the pretty NM being yellow. In fact this update has must made bots even stronger -.-b



Not really. I'm just scared delay will be too short and mob will still pop unclaimed against ppl with better ping.


Kay bots will work even better now. I mean you can now target the thing you want. Also info has to be sent that says "hey you can claim now!" and just like a packetsniffer can see where a mob will pop a new bot will be able to tell down to the millisecond when a mob will go available if this timer isnt random. Even if it is random a bot will soon be able to tell anyways.... :neutral: It's sad but true.

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and lat i dont hate you but seriously...

STR+10 DEX+10 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Evasion-10


since when do any of these stats affect a bst... who uses a pet to kill its foes? if anything war and drk actually need these stats and its just fluff for a BST who wants to be a WAR or DRK =p

thats like a BRD outlotting a NIN on byakko haidate.


it very important a BST can kill the foes fast after they release the pets. ^^;;

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and lat i dont hate you but seriously...

STR+10 DEX+10 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Evasion-10


since when do any of these stats affect a bst... who uses a pet to kill its foes? if anything war and drk actually need these stats and its just fluff for a BST who wants to be a WAR or DRK =p

thats like a BRD outlotting a NIN on byakko haidate.


Yea I agree, I seriously would look down on a BST that wants E Body before the DRK and WAR in the LS. I mean come on, thats like WAR wanting M Body before all the PLD. Thats just not cool =p

WAR and DRK > BST on E Body :wink:

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I would say "I bet KFC is gonna cry now" but they already botted all the shit they needed anyway.


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i think the timer will be random, because if its a set time on each thing they can still bot very easyly just have them put a timer in the thingy or w/e i dunno how bots work but i htink you all understand what i mean.


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i think the timer will be random, because if its a set time on each thing they can still bot very easyly just have them put a timer in the thingy or w/e i dunno how bots work but i htink you all understand what i mean.


Even with a random timer it wont work perfectly but it will stop a lot of ppl

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but when are they going to fix the avatar bp freeze as mob dies glitch!?!? when?!!?


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Yeah i wouldnt get too excited yet.

Sounds like this patch is to remove the problem of mobs loading on screen before others with slow computers. Doesnt necissarly mean it will help network latency issues in any way though.

We'll see soon i guess.

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I heard people still see mob pop claimed already

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