I'm sorry for making a seperate thread, but since my original thread became a flame war....heres Valisk's original post. I wasn't going to respond, but I don't like people taking potshots at me for no reason:
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Valisk Wrote:
DISCLAIMER: ASSHOLE ALERT hohoho
Treetsatet wrote:
1. COP sucks - If you have SEA, go @#$@ yourself seriously, as you probably had to exploit the pt system to do it; i.e everyone going as /nin or nothing but smn or rng ect bullshit. Most of the BC's are so damn hard, and with one mistake, you gotta start all over again.
LOL. You serious? Did you expect this to be one of those gaves where you could "save data" right before a fight and turn it off if you lose. Then "load data" and everything is the way it is before you started? Come on Tree, this game is meant to be challanging. Not something you can blow thru in a week and reap the rewards and benefits.
Treetsatet wrote:
2. No solo play - Seriously, this one has been bugging me ever since I started playing in oct 2003. Why must I have at least 3 hours to play, so then I form a pt (not as bad for me as the people who lfg for 6 hours, wtf is that, and you call that a "game") in get to an exp spot in about 1:30, spend another 1:30 exping and log off. And dont tell me about soloing anything at high level, because as a mage, it takes nearly your entire mp pool to take ONE mob that cons as EP, or maybe D.c, or if your melee, then you simply sub nin and blink hits and pay out of the ass to solo shit.
Beastmaster {Do you need it?} Yea yea, the solo department is limited, but this isnt intended to be a soloable game. This is a MMORPG. Everything is about community. You cant get by with being an ass to everyone. You have to make friends and help others to get help. EXP PTs often form quickly if you have a LS. Form a semi-perma PT with a few members in your LS and fill in the empty spots as you go. Its not that hard, you're making it sound way more difficult than it actually is.
Treetsatet wrote:
3. JP - I never thought I could hate these bastards as much as I do now. And irl i'm a very tolerant person, I never have anything against anyone, and I give my respect to others openly until I find reason they don't deserve it. The JP ONRY comments have finally gotten to me, and I admit i'm fucking bitter. Don't give me any shit that they can't understand what I'm saying, auto-translator works for nearly anything that you might need to say concerning strategy for exp pts. Its simple enough to do a member search for a jp and go "oh ok". The fact that they think they own this game adds to my frustration.
Some NA do it too. "NA Only" or "{Japanese} {No thanks}" comments. Not that it matters. There are some cool JP, there are some asses as well. Same with NA. You cant avoid asses, they come in all different shapes, sizes, colors, and languages.
Treetsatet wrote:
4. HNMs - First off, 21-24 hour spawns, where you have 100+ people in a zone camping it. The jp ruin this especially. If they made everything a force pop, I might understand. SE's design of this is horrible.
Umm. {Hello!} This problem has been fixed. Last week, JPs got 0 kings. CKD got Nidhogg, and FS got KB and Apsi. Last I checked, you were in TTK, and they claimed a Fafnir as well. Seriously Tree, these things have to have 21-24 hour spawns. Would you really like Serket or Roc popping 6 times a day? Or worse, would you like Fafnir and Behemoth to pop 6 times a day? Then the items they drop wouldnt be so special, cause everyone and their mom would be running around with them.
Treetsatet wrote:
5. LS drama - When our own NA ls's can't get along, you know there are serious problems. Its even worse when you have people getting kicked from ls for no reason. You know who you are, and you know who i'm speaking about.
This is a server with over 4000 people on it. Do you really expect everyone to get along? Drama is drama, lol. Trash talk here, trash talk there. Its something you have to deal with. The fact ppl getting kick for no reason is in the hands of the LS leader and the sac holders (who are appointed by the LS leader). If there is a problem with ppl getting kicked for no reason, you need to approach ur LS leader and discuss the problem. If your LS leader is unwilling to listen or shed light on the situation, then chances are, its not a very good LS to start with.
Treetsatet wrote:
So there you go folks. Unless I have a serious change of heart, which I doubt, I will be soon selling my account, because I want money for the fucking wasted time of my life that I put into this so called "game".
There is the big no no. Thats were I lost all respect for you. I wasnt going to even comment on this thread until I read this. Its disappointing that people who complain about RMT and bad aspects of the game, but then get bitter and add to the problems not giving a fuck about the situations they are leaving their so called "friends" behind. Basically you whined about the bad portions of the game, yet you wanna add to it after you quit. That shit is lame.
Treetsatet wrote:
I just changed my mind actually. Doesn't change the fact that I still hate these things about the game, but I put in ALOT of effort into this game, and I don't want to just throw that all away.
And this is just sad. Now you just seem like an attention whore. Your original quit post was dated Aug 5. 2:18 PM (CST). This "nvm post" is dated Aug 5. 3:43 PM (CST). So are you telling me in 1 hour 25 mins, you went from "OMG This game sucks" to "Oh nvm I put too much work into this". This tells me that you werent serious about quitting in the 1st place. This is ridiculous. I liked you Tree, but the whole "selling my account" and "1 hour 25 min change of heart" has you labelled as an attention whore in my book.
Ok, lets start with one simple fact. Who gives you the right to call me an asshole Valisk. Personally, I'm not going to get into the shit that happened on ttk forums, but you have no right to disrespect me in game or in real life.
You don't know me. Also, I was SERIOUSLY considering quitting. You don't believe me, its your choice, but in that case STFU.
I stand by all the things I find wrong with this game:
1. If Sea access was easy for you to get, good for you, consider yourself one of the few lucky ones. Lets look at the example of taragotan. Even though he can be annoying, hes generally a nice guy that helps people at alot. He was one of the first NA to get to within a few fights of having access. He only got it now. Ok, maybe thats a bad example, and I don't mean to generalize, but this is simply something that happens. The problem with getting sea is threefold:
A. Level caps mean you need to re-purchase your old armor (seriously, what kind of stupid idea is this).
B. The fights themselves require an absurd ammount of preparation (try shouting for a BC in jueno for 3-4 hours just get to members).
C. Getting to the fights is a pain in the ass. Take a look at Riverne Site A01 for instance.
I don't expect to get sea in a week as you said, and I don't expect it to be easy. Sure it has to be challenging, but SE made it too hard. The proof for this is how many in the na community actually have sea. Probably no more than about 100 people on a server of more than 20,000.
Lets take the next point on my list, #2 Solo play:
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You cant get by with being an ass to everyone. You have to make friends and help others to get help. EXP PTs often form quickly if you have a LS. Form a semi-perma PT with a few members in your LS and fill in the empty spots as you go. Its not that hard, you're making it sound way more difficult than it actually is.
First of all, who are YOU to educate me about exping. And your saying I'm an ass to everyone? At least I'm not ass-kisser, sell-out like you. I'm not saying I've been playing longer then you or whatever. What I am saying, is I've formed nearly all of the exp parties I've ever been in. Anyone reading this post, name 1 time I've ever seeked for pt, thats proof enough. I don't brag, but I know my own worth, and I'm an expert at forming pts. As far as I remember, I've exped with you in Bibiki Bay, as well as dragon's aery, many months back when I formed a manaburn there. You frequently complained about pt setup, ect., and I simply don't care, since my average exp per pt is 4k per hour.
I'm NOT complaing about party play. In fact I ENJOY it. My problem is that there is no way to exp solo without being a beastmaster. If you look at other MMORPGS, there are ways to advance both party and solo. And although you get better exp in parties in those games, solo play is far behind. My point is, if I have 1-2 hours to kill in those games, I don't have to form a pt simply to exp. In this game I do (as blm). I don't even bother forming a pt if I have less than 3 hours to be online. Forget about seeking for a pt for 4+ hours. The lfg system in this game sucks. I actually have a life; fiancee', family, job, college degree, my own apartment. And I'm 22 years old. What about you?
Talking about point #3 (Japanese):
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Some NA do it too. "NA Only" or "{Japanese} {No thanks}" comments. Not that it matters. There are some cool JP, there are some asses as well. Same with NA. You cant avoid asses, they come in all different shapes, sizes, colors, and languages.
There are very few cool JP, although I've met some. 90% of them refuse to party simply because you use the auto-translate function. Whether SE designed the game like this, JP are the way they are is the classic chicken and egg argument. My point here is they have zero respect for any NA, and for the most part are elitist, racist bastards, that control the economy, constantly cheat, and claim hnms (although maybe not anymore after this update).
Point #4: HNMS
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Umm. {Hello!} This problem has been fixed. Last week, JPs got 0 kings. CKD got Nidhogg, and FS got KB and Apsi. Last I checked, you were in TTK, and they claimed a Fafnir as well. Seriously Tree, these things have to have 21-24 hour spawns. Would you really like Serket or Roc popping 6 times a day? Or worse, would you like Fafnir and Behemoth to pop 6 times a day? Then the items they drop wouldnt be so special, cause everyone and their mom would be running around with them.
Yes I agree with you, SE made things better after this new patch. However, I still think its a stupid decision on SE's part to make hnms pop on such long intervals. Its not my idea of "fun" to stand around for 2-3 hours waiting for the damn mob to pop. I'm pretty sure I'm paying a monthly fee to play a "game". I stand by my original point.
Finally point #5, Drama:
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LS drama - When our own NA ls's can't get along, you know there are serious problems. Its even worse when you have people getting kicked from ls for no reason. You know who you are, and you know who i'm speaking about.
This is a server with over 4000 people on it. Do you really expect everyone to get along? Drama is drama, lol. Trash talk here, trash talk there. Its something you have to deal with. The fact ppl getting kick for no reason is in the hands of the LS leader and the sac holders (who are appointed by the LS leader). If there is a problem with ppl getting kicked for no reason, you need to approach ur LS leader and discuss the problem. If your LS leader is unwilling to listen or shed light on the situation, then chances are, its not a very good LS to start with.
Here this is a general statement about affairs on our server. Its hard to stay friends with people that are old friends from way back because ls to ls drama. Sure people have their egos, but why is it so hard to swallow your pride for just one minute and put yourself in the other person's shoes. This is supposed to be a game. I have enough drama irl. We should be considerate of each other when camping hnms and in sky/sea. For instance, how about some general way to plan events at different times so we don't get in each others way. Considering the random kicking thing, this is something I've seen in some past ls's that I've been in, and its definetly not cool when you have sack holders on a power trip. To be more specific, I'm not referring to ttk. I'm referring to hokuten, ect. My point is, whenever your do anything, keep it in your mind that your not the only one that plays this game. Treat others with respect.
To make it clear, the reason why I'm staying is because I still enjoy the game, have goals to accomplish, and have fun with my friends. There are certain things on SE's part that should be fixed though, but the good outweighs the bad.
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