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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:13 pm 
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I think what most people are missing is that this really isn't an open forum for all topics. Sure it seems that way, and may even be advertised to others that way, but it's not. This is someones personal website which others just so happen to attend.

ie you might get away with speaking your mind sometimes, but it's ultimately the choice of the admin to be bigbrother -- which he has in this case when it applies to something he doesn't like.

just 2 cents from a nobody.



You are correct, and as to the childish remarks he did leave this open, and hasn't banned you... yet.

His boards, his ls, his call, and if you don't like it you have two options. One is that you take what he gives you, and go on about your life. The other you knock the server offline.

Just a few more cents from the guy noone knows under this name. >.>


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:16 pm 
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Well if a "public discussion" or "meeting" is held inside somebodies house, and the owner of the house decided they don't want you there, they have every right to kick you out. It's their house.

The forum might be public but it's hosted on Yarr's website and that makes it his house, so to speak. Probably not the best analogy but you get the idea i'm sure.

Anyway.

What I find stupid is that Valisk was banned from the FS boards for doing exactly the same thing (unnessecary flaming based around an opinion) and Vaelen banned him. Nobody yells "Freedom of speech" then, but when Yarr does the same thing the entire public is in an uproar.

Personally I don't care what, which way or whatever. This argument is nothing to do with me as far as I'm concerned. But if people are gonna complain about it, they could at least not pick on one guy while turning a blind eye to the other.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:16 pm 
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Whatever, this is pointless.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:17 pm 
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Pirato i understand your concern, so let me break this down. I think you make some points most people are thinking, im not picking on you in particular.

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This is retarded. Ban was totally unasked for in this case, I would even dare to call that abuse. Just because their opinion on someone is different from yours justifies a ban?


Theres a difference between spouting off your opinoin and bashing someone. For example, I can hate someone of a different race all I want, but as soon as I start bashing them and shouting it out... well.. thats a problem. Your entitled to your opionion so long as it doesnt degrade someone else. Atleast thats the basis of the Freedom of Speach IIRC.

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I bet they wouldn't have been banned if they were talking shit about me, for example. But when they're bashing the admin's buddy, time to use those powers and strike hard! That attitiude really comes off as childish and spoiled to me.
If you really can't handle it that some people don't like your best friends, just cuss back at them or even better, simply ignore it. Resorting to admin powers just for that is really fucking low if you ask me.


Nope, I wouldnt have ban them for bashing you. You arnt a member of CKD. You arnt a friend of mine (no offence) so why would I?
This forum has a purpose. That is for CKD to come and chat about everything from FFXI to 'Boobies covered in Bacon'. While I do want this forum to be the place where everyone comes to get the latest 'Ifrit Buz' I wont sit by as an Admin and Moderator and let people slowly crush the reputation of one of the most selfless individuals Ive met in game.

I have 2-3 years of IGN Moderating experiance and I apply most the guidlines i learnt there to moderating here. I was a good mod at IGN and never had any problems with how I delt with my power.

Besides, I ban HitmanR whos an Ex-CKD member. I could easily have looked the other way on that one.

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Now please don't ban me just because I'm saying what's on my mind! No seriously, I dare you to ban me. Don't know if I wanna be part anymore of a community that's moderated using friend politics.


No one is forcing you to come here. No one is holding you at gun point. If you dont like that I stand up for my friends then just leave.

If I wanted to be a real asshole I would have just perma ban them.

Valisk is a good guy who people started bashing for the wrong reasons. I am putting a stop to it.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:19 pm 
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Today's topic as approved by Yarr:

Boobies covered in bacon

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:23 pm 
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Kioto wrote:
Really?

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1 a : the marketplace or public place of an ancient Roman city forming the center of judicial and public business b : a public meeting place for open discussion c : a medium (as a newspaper) of open discussion or expression of ideas
2 : a judicial body or assembly : COURT
3 a : a public meeting or lecture involving audience discussion b : a program (as on radio or television) involving discussion of a problem usually by several authorities

If he didnt want it to be public he wouldnt have it up.
I'm sure he has the non-public sections.


This is by far the dumbest point ive ever seen you try and make.

Heres an equilly retarded point that makes your retarded point make no sense.

This is a phpBB site. That BB stands for Bulletin board. I administer the Bulletin Board and Moderate the topics to make sure they follow the Rules I see fit.

This site costs me real money from my pocket every month. I do not advertise nor do I ever ask for money (Ive turned it down a few times). All I ask is that people listen to what I say.

For the the most part Ive never had a problem with that. Then again Im sitting here arguing rules of an online site with someone who doesnt even play the game this site relates too.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:25 pm 
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Yarr wrote:
Then again Im sitting here arguing rules of an online site with someone who doesnt even play the game this site relates too.


I dont?

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And i really have to LOL at the BB reply. Very Intellectual.

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Boobies covered in bacon

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Its a Canadian thing.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:30 pm 
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Kioto something i've learned just so you know. Remember when i used to get mad when i would get censored? Remember that? Something yarr had to tell me to realize. Though these forums are in the public eye, they are privately owned. So since yarr owns it, i really have no say if he decides to say or do something with his own property. And believe me i'm all for free speech, but i also believe we are to respect peoples property

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This actually brings up a funny story about my ex-wife (yes I am only 22 with an ex wife already). We were cooking, and her being a large amount smaller than me (4'11 vs 6'4) I turned to pull the back out of the fridge. Now understand I hold the bacon at a comfortible level for me, not her though as it would turn out, and bam a tray full of bacon down her shirt. Her boobs were greasy as hell for a few days. mmmmm raw bacon... *shudders*


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:32 pm 
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you guys are lucky yarr has let this forum become home for so many people from ifrit... i pretty much ban all non Valour from my forum... too much drama

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:35 pm 
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Imaulle wrote:
you guys are lucky yarr has let this forum become home for so many people from ifrit... i pretty much ban all non Valour from my forum... too much drama


its a double edges sword, my grades fell because of this damn forum(laptop +ckd = not paying attention) :oops:


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I understand what you are saying mikey.

I dont care anymore, since i guess i dont "play" ffxi,
shouldnt really be even allowed to speak around these parts.

Although i have been playing fro quite sometime now,
almost LV64 again.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:56 pm 
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Imaulle wrote:
you guys are lucky yarr has let this forum become home for so many people from ifrit... i pretty much ban all non Valour from my forum... too much drama
lol, hes not kidding, you shoulda seen how fast i was removed from the members section from the website... "Your linkpearl has been broken" >>> "Your interweb has been destroyed"

Imaulle is a strange character... very strange

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Kioto wrote:
I understand what you are saying mikey.

I dont care anymore, since i guess i dont "play" ffxi,
shouldnt really be even allowed to speak around these parts.

Although i have been playing fro quite sometime now,
almost LV64 again.


I never said you wernt allowed, if you wernt allowed I would have ban you.

Youre not ban are you?

I didnt realize you still played. For that I do appologise.

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kioto haxed himself from 1 to 64 in 20 seconds irl


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:07 pm 
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OMFG STOP THE FLAMING/FIGHTING ITS FUCKING ANNOYING!

i came a little late due to my studies, but im just going o make my point and run away as fast as i can. argueing on the internet is like competing in the retarted olympics, no one wins. if you are gonna bring other ppl down, do it in a fucking PM thats what tehre for.

i respect lani, valisk, and lazy all for different reasons.

valisk- he fucking kicks ass, hes funny, (though i dont agree with his arguments) and hes a pld

lani- she has always been nice to me, and has helped me out in multiple occations with out any delay.

lazy- well hes my ls leader, and a pretty cool guy.hes funny, and perverted, but thats what makes him lazy

i just think its dumb/pointless/retarted/annoying to see everyone fighting, okthnxbye


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ike wrote:
argueing on the internet is like competing in the retarted olympics, no one wins.


i think it's supposed to be "even if you win, you're still retarded," but i get what you're saying ;p


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Ike and Homsar post real good like.

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Ultimaj wrote:
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argueing on the internet is like competing in the retarted olympics, no one wins.


i think it's supposed to be "even if you win, you're still retarded," but i get what you're saying ;p


lmao yea, that too


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Ike and Homsar post real good like.


You just like the story of my ex's baconed boobs. I KNOW THE TRUTH.. like who bots >.>


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I have to agree with some, Yarr could be a nice guy at times.

Anyways, i'll try keeping my mouth shut. Toodles.

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